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re: Is this legal?
Posted on 8/12/12 at 8:58 am to AlxTgr
Posted on 8/12/12 at 8:58 am to AlxTgr
What do u want me to site? LDWF possibly would handle it dfferent than the feds. Our Federal Game Warden would ticket u in a millasecond. Heck, he shut down the entire LADP for half a duck season saying a hurrican baited a field.
They have a wide span of subjectivity when ticketing hunters. Judges have a significant lean to WLF side of cases.
Try to define "Sphere of Influence" - Thats how the WLF determine how much geography is deemed baited. Ur neighbor baits his field.... Can u hunt? Are you inside the "Sphere of Influence?" The agent will decide that...... And you had absolutely nothing to do with it.
Back to the original OP- unless the agents know what you were doing prior to the season, they will likely have no proof if your plywood is a different sheet (iE no residue). But, if you are caught - u will be ticketed for hunting over a baited field. You will be very kucky if the agent doesnt spend the morning with you trying to find more tickets to write.
They have a wide span of subjectivity when ticketing hunters. Judges have a significant lean to WLF side of cases.
Try to define "Sphere of Influence" - Thats how the WLF determine how much geography is deemed baited. Ur neighbor baits his field.... Can u hunt? Are you inside the "Sphere of Influence?" The agent will decide that...... And you had absolutely nothing to do with it.
Back to the original OP- unless the agents know what you were doing prior to the season, they will likely have no proof if your plywood is a different sheet (iE no residue). But, if you are caught - u will be ticketed for hunting over a baited field. You will be very kucky if the agent doesnt spend the morning with you trying to find more tickets to write.
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 9:11 am to bossflossjr
This is an interesting thread... but please excuse my ignorance as I'm not duck hunter...
what's the relevance of a sheet of plywood to a baited pond? do they sell sheets of corn that I don't know about? my corn comes in cans...
what's the relevance of a sheet of plywood to a baited pond? do they sell sheets of corn that I don't know about? my corn comes in cans...
Posted on 8/12/12 at 9:16 am to Grassy1
He is talking about feeding ducks corn off a sheet of plywood prior to the season. When the season opens, place only the plywood out in an attempt to draw the ducks to, what they would think, is feed. In reality, it's simply a sheet of plywood.
A simple sheet of plywood in the woods/ponds is obviously not bait. The prior actions and current attempt is what could garner a ticket in this instance.
A simple sheet of plywood in the woods/ponds is obviously not bait. The prior actions and current attempt is what could garner a ticket in this instance.
Posted on 8/12/12 at 9:26 am to bossflossjr
So one floats the plywood and puts the corn on top of it?
Posted on 8/12/12 at 9:35 am to bossflossjr
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This post was edited on 2/19/13 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 8/12/12 at 9:44 am to brass2mouth
We've been waiting on you 
Posted on 8/12/12 at 9:47 am to KingRanch
They didnt want to believe you, did they. had to hear it from GJ himself
Posted on 8/12/12 at 9:48 am to greasemonkey
I was sitting next to a green jean
Posted on 8/12/12 at 10:01 am to KingRanch
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We've been waiting on you
lol man i was working yesterday, didnt get home till 1 this morning to a house with a broken ac
Posted on 8/12/12 at 10:06 am to brass2mouth
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I've also never heard of the "sphere of influence" either. You're not going to get in trouble if somebody in the pond behind you is baiting their pond, if they are right across the pond from you, possibly, but not in a totally separate water body or field.
They can if they want to...... See Federal Court case vs LADP after Gustov. I sat in federal court in Alexandria for 10 hours listening. It's up to the agent on he perceives and proceeds.
Cash Shriver shut down fields 3 miles away.
This post was edited on 8/12/12 at 10:08 am
Posted on 8/12/12 at 10:06 am to brass2mouth
What about spreading visqueen(sp)out in a dry field to make it look like a water hole. is that baiting?
This post was edited on 8/12/12 at 10:07 am
Posted on 8/12/12 at 10:06 am to brass2mouth
If I have 100 acres with two seperale bodies of water. I put the plywood in one and bait it. Two weeks prior to the season I stop baiting it. Opening day the plywood is in water body #2 that has never had bait in it and is seperated by 5 or 600 hards that would be considered baiting?
Posted on 8/12/12 at 10:09 am to bossflossjr
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bossflossjr
I'm not trying to call you out or anything man, but there has definitely got to be more to that story than you're telling here, and I googled U.S. vs. LADP and found nothing, so maybe you could link?
Posted on 8/12/12 at 10:09 am to FelicianaTigerfan
From this thread, I think its clear that most WLF agents are going to ticket you. I would like to see some of this stuff play out in Court. I guess it really depends on the Judge. I can see it going either way.
This stuff has me thinking -- does anyone know if there are lawyers who specialize in WLF type matters? I know there are criminal lawyers, but I'm talking just to WLF stuff.
This stuff has me thinking -- does anyone know if there are lawyers who specialize in WLF type matters? I know there are criminal lawyers, but I'm talking just to WLF stuff.
This post was edited on 8/12/12 at 10:11 am
Posted on 8/12/12 at 10:09 am to FelicianaTigerfan
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If I have 100 acres with two seperale bodies of water. I put the plywood in one and bait it. Two weeks prior to the season I stop baiting it. Opening day the plywood is in water body #2 that has never had bait in it and is seperated by 5 or 600 hards that would be considered baiting?
Your intentions are still the same IMO, so yes.
This post was edited on 8/12/12 at 10:10 am
Posted on 8/12/12 at 10:15 am to brass2mouth
Don't know ona link - ask anyone familiar with the Louisiana Delta Plantation in Jonesville LA about the floods after Gustov. Cash shut the whole farm down (84 blinds/fields) because some farmers had ruined crops and couldn't harvest for insurance purposes. There were fields miles away that we're listed as baited by he, the federal agent, and his agency uswlf. Case went to court mid season - in federal court in Alexandria LA. I sat there the entire time.
It's not apples to apples in reference to this OP with corn and plywood......but is a perfect example of the Feds subjectivity on sphere of influence. Catahoula, which in parts, is closer to the fields in question were not "baited." Again, subjective discretion leveed by the uswlf agent.
It's not apples to apples in reference to this OP with corn and plywood......but is a perfect example of the Feds subjectivity on sphere of influence. Catahoula, which in parts, is closer to the fields in question were not "baited." Again, subjective discretion leveed by the uswlf agent.
Posted on 8/12/12 at 10:17 am to brass2mouth
Posted on 8/12/12 at 10:18 am to brass2mouth
Yes its illegal. The plywood is just like being arrested for drug paraphernalia. Its the intent that gets you. You will get especially smoked if you pull it the day before the season. There's a timeframe you must adhere to in regards to baiting cutting fields etc. Migratory bird laws are strenuous to say the least. Ranch's cousin is correct and you will lose in court.
Posted on 8/12/12 at 10:25 am to KingRanch
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I was sitting next to a green jean
suuuure you where.. this is the interwebz evarone lies
Posted on 8/12/12 at 10:27 am to greasemonkey
I was
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