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re: Why is LA so against toll roads?

Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:12 pm to
Posted by sfdurst
New Iberia
Member since Dec 2009
195 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:12 pm to
Most of the NJ Turnpike is I95/I295 and I78.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13836 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:00 pm to
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That's the problem. A majority of the voting base are stupid as frick.
Interesting, you live in Dallas?
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13836 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:08 pm to
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The state can't make budget and fix problems. They can't make budget, period.
Address the expense side of the equation and then let's talk about additional taxes.
Posted by TigerRob20
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
3732 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:48 pm to
The real problem now is that this probably won't get taken up again for 4 years:

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One of the biggest disappointments about the failure of the measure—which didn’t die on the House floor but, rather, was pulled by its sponsor, Rep. Steve Carter, R-Baton Rouge, after he realized he didn’t have the 70 votes needed for passage—is that it likely won’t come up again for several years.

Gov. John Bel Edwards has indicated he will call a special session later this summer to deal with fiscal reform, but has told lawmakers he will not include the gas tax hike in the call, says Carter, who sponsored the tax measure. Beyond that, 2018 is a nonfiscal session, which means tax issues cannot be addressed, and 2019 is an election year, which will decrease the willingness of lawmakers to pass any tax.

The following year is another nonfiscal session, which means 2021 is the next opportunity to even consider a statewide funding mechanism for projects that will take years more to plan and build.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40076 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:50 pm to
North Dallas, originally from the West Bank.

What's your point?
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49502 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 2:03 pm to
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In doing so, you're creating jobs


The spending of tax dollars doesn't create jobs, it just inefficiently redistributes jobs into less desired sectors.


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fixing the infrastructure problem


I would be shocked if over half of those proposed gas taxes went towards infrastructure.

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and adding economic benefits to the state


I strongly disagree.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21433 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 2:29 pm to
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The real problem now is that this probably won't get taken up again for 4 years:


Exactly! Another 4 years of whining and complaining and nothing can be done about it.
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89498 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 3:29 pm to
You're wrong on all fronts, my man. You are adding jobs. Less desired sectors? What kind of nonsense is that? For one, you create the opportunity for engineering and contracting firms to expand their departments and hire more professionals. You add to DOTD staff and you also add to the blue-collar work force.

You may be shocked, but the increase in tax was proposed for the only purpose to provide increased revenue for infrastructure projects in the state. That's it. The transfer of funds to state police will not be allowed for this revenue. It will all go to infrastructure projects.

How can you not agree with economic development? Like I said earlier, there are manufacturers and corporations that have avoided this state and their main factor for doing so was the lack of infrastructure.

If you build new corridors or add capacity to existing ones, you increase the flow of traffic and commercial businesses will spring up.
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89498 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 3:30 pm to
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Address the expense side of the equation and then let's talk about additional taxes.
What do you mean? This particular tax does not get redistributed. It is one tax for one purpose.
Posted by bigrob385series
B. Aura
Member since May 2014
2634 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 3:38 pm to
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Without more revenue generated from taxes, this will not get better.
instead of hiking up gas prices...do you believe that legalization and taxing of rec. marijuana would be a logical decision at this point by the state?
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
66907 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 3:53 pm to
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Imagine a BR loop


Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89498 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 4:38 pm to
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instead of hiking up gas prices...do you believe that legalization and taxing of rec. marijuana would be a logical decision at this point by the state?
That would be another revenue stream for taxes, sure. And since I'm not really into government I don't know if those revenues could be used for infrastructure, but I can't see why they couldn't.

If the revenue from recreational marijuana would go solely into infrastructure and it would account for the estimated yearly revenues needed from the gas tax, then sure...I'd get behind that.

But, I can almost guarantee there are more people using gasoline in the state than there are people using recreational marijuana. Why not both, tho?
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