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re: How do you help an alcoholic friend
Posted on 4/26/14 at 5:09 am to lsu480
Posted on 4/26/14 at 5:09 am to lsu480
Holy shite, first you come on here and give advice that you know is contrary to what the overwhelming majority of people who work in the field would say. Second, you jump into a disagreement I had with a 3rd poster who isn't even here. Third, you accuse me of not having enough reading comprehension to understand what you wrote. Fourth, you insult me. Fifth, you tell me that I'm the one being pretentious and ignorant, despite you knowingly giving contrarian advice that cuts against the grain of what most people think.
Get a grip, man. Later.
Get a grip, man. Later.
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Posted on 4/26/14 at 5:18 am to Doc Fenton
The main point I've taken from this thread is that you don't understand the phrase "hitting rock bottom." That's a new one. Congrats
Posted on 4/26/14 at 5:26 am to Doc Fenton
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first you come on here and give advice that you know is contrary to what the overwhelming majority of people who work in the field would say
Of course they would say that because its their job and the goal of ANY job is to make a PROFIT!
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Second, you jump into a disagreement I had with a 3rd poster who isn't even here.
I stated my opinion, and I even said it was just an opinion, and then you started arguing and acting like you know WTF is what.
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Third, you accuse me of not having enough reading comprehension to understand what you wrote
Yes I did and still do
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Fourth, you insult me
Ya....you hurled the first one, you called me a jackass, but then when back and edited it. ANY admin can verify that. quote:
Fifth, you tell me that I'm the one being pretentious and ignorant, despite you knowingly giving contrarian advice that cuts against the grain of what most people think.
You are and just because most people think something is true doesn't mean it is correct. Most people elected Obama and Bush.....twice!
Posted on 4/26/14 at 5:32 am to CuseTiger
So he binge drinks a few times a week. How old is he? It doesn't sound like he is physically dependent yet. I'd take him to an AA meeting. If he is an alcoholic, he will relate to the alcoholics there and hopefully join them. If he is just a problem drinker/binge drinker, he will think "holy shite, I'm not that bad" and hopefully be scared into cutting back. If that's the case, as a friend, I would try to get him to do as many activities that don't involve alcohol with you (working out, playing basketball, stuff like that).
Posted on 4/26/14 at 5:39 am to Ric Flair
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So he binge drinks a few times a week. How old is he? It doesn't sound like he is physically dependent yet. I'd take him to an AA meeting. If he is an alcoholic, he will relate to the alcoholics there and hopefully join them. If he is just a problem drinker/binge drinker, he will think "holy shite, I'm not that bad" and hopefully be scared into cutting back. If that's the case, as a friend, I would try to get him to do as many activities that don't involve alcohol with you (working out, playing basketball, stuff like that).
Doc Fenton thinks you are an idiot for helping your friend!
Posted on 4/26/14 at 6:10 am to CuseTiger
It sounds like he knows he has a problem and wants help that's the big step. Now he just has to do it. Had a friend who had the same problem. Where I could go on a 4 days bing and drink like a fish then not drink again for months, he couldn't. He had to totally go cold turkey. A friend probably fits in this category. main thing is just support him which your already doing.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 6:39 am to Doc Fenton
doc fenton-
you admit you dont have a clue about being additted to something then try and tell everyone a rock bottom is bullshite. you have no clue, please go back to the rant and discuss what 18 year old you will beat off to next if they come to lsu
you admit you dont have a clue about being additted to something then try and tell everyone a rock bottom is bullshite. you have no clue, please go back to the rant and discuss what 18 year old you will beat off to next if they come to lsu
Posted on 4/26/14 at 6:53 am to Doc Fenton
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P.S. -- The "rock bottom" concept is one of the most bullshite ideas out there. It doesn't really exist for anybody
Are you fricking kidding me? Rock bottom certainly exists, and it is different for everyone
Posted on 4/26/14 at 6:56 am to lsu480
Dude. You aren't sober. Please don't tell others how to get sober.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 7:06 am to lsu480
IMO, he's only an alcoholic if he's drinking by himself.... Go hang out with the dude
JK, addiction can be a scary thing... Be there for him, let him know that even though it sucks, what he's going through isn't new to society and there are options for help
JK, addiction can be a scary thing... Be there for him, let him know that even though it sucks, what he's going through isn't new to society and there are options for help
Posted on 4/26/14 at 7:06 am to Doc Fenton
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Doc Fenton
You're first post you admitted you don't understand being addicted to something
You then go on telling people they are dumbasses and certain ways are stupid
So tell me, why are you posting in this thread?
Posted on 4/26/14 at 7:12 am to Doc Fenton
Dumbass
Posted on 4/26/14 at 7:16 am to CuseTiger
I've been sober 30 yrs. 8-14-1984
The 1st thing he has to acknowledge is he IS an alcoholic. Nothing, and I mean nothing, will work until that admission is made.
Staying away from booze at this stage is a very good idea,If you choose not to drink around him that's a good thing to do. He needs to go to to AA meetings. I made 120 meetings in 90 days, didn't say a word, just listened, that's what the old timers told me to do.
I'm an old timer now,so I'm just handing it down.
We ALL have to hit rock bottom, maybe he's there maybe not, Until he gets sick and tired of being sick and tired, nothing will happen.
Just be a friend and be supportive learn about the disease maybe make some Alanon meetings on your own, wouldn't hurt for you to make an open AA meeting in your area, there's plenty of meetings here in BR
The 1st thing he has to acknowledge is he IS an alcoholic. Nothing, and I mean nothing, will work until that admission is made.
Staying away from booze at this stage is a very good idea,If you choose not to drink around him that's a good thing to do. He needs to go to to AA meetings. I made 120 meetings in 90 days, didn't say a word, just listened, that's what the old timers told me to do.
I'm an old timer now,so I'm just handing it down.
We ALL have to hit rock bottom, maybe he's there maybe not, Until he gets sick and tired of being sick and tired, nothing will happen.
Just be a friend and be supportive learn about the disease maybe make some Alanon meetings on your own, wouldn't hurt for you to make an open AA meeting in your area, there's plenty of meetings here in BR
Posted on 4/26/14 at 7:19 am to ole man
Solid advice from a man who knows. Thanks for sharing that. Now why aren't you at Early Birds?
Just kidding.
Just kidding.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 7:19 am to ole man
Posted on 4/26/14 at 7:28 am to CuseTiger
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Also, I've tried to tell him to cut back slowly and see how that works, but to no avail.
That won't work for an alcoholic.
Sounds like he wants help. He should go to rehab. And as a friend just be supportive. Come up with nondrinking activities for y'all to do. Hiking, canoeing, hunting..
Posted on 4/26/14 at 7:30 am to CuseTiger
Take him to a meeting
Posted on 4/26/14 at 7:33 am to pooponsaban
I just read all the post. Rock Bottom hmmm some people never get there 'Doc' I had a loaded shotgun to my mouth in 1980, and didn't get sober for 4 more yrs. That's when I hit Rock Bottom, the events that led to that are not important.
It is real to a alcoholic make no mistake about it,
I did it all, drugs, and alcohol, my choice was drugs, cause it enabled me to drink more, I been clean of all.
Bad things can happen if you never get there, I've seen it happen, 3 friends, suicide, drinkin and doping.
It is real to a alcoholic make no mistake about it,
I did it all, drugs, and alcohol, my choice was drugs, cause it enabled me to drink more, I been clean of all.
Bad things can happen if you never get there, I've seen it happen, 3 friends, suicide, drinkin and doping.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 7:35 am to SonOfMike
Solid
Posted on 4/26/14 at 7:38 am to lsu480
I think about sue Ellen when threads like this pop up.
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