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re: Apple acts all high and mighty.. Won't turn over password to terrorists iPhone
Posted on 2/17/16 at 12:24 pm to TaderSalad
Posted on 2/17/16 at 12:24 pm to TaderSalad
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Apple products suck. I went through a whole debacle with them and iMessage. Couldnt get messages on a galaxy being a previous iphone owner because when they created iMessage, they tethered it to your phone number rather than an app or phone software.
Long story short, after doing everything they said, I was told that I would have to wait 60 days before I could be certain that all of my text messages were coming through.
So Apple products suck cause you switched to a Non Apple product?
Posted on 2/17/16 at 12:27 pm to CAD703X
A lot of guesses and bad information in this thread. Maybe this will help some people understand...
LINK
BTW I side with Apple
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This particular case is different. The FBI is not asking Apple to build a “back door” into its iPhone exactly. Instead, it is asking Apple to build a new version of its iOS operating system that would dismantle two safety mechanisms on the iPhone 5c. The first erases all of the information on the device after an incorrect password has been entered ten times. The second requires that a password be manually entered onto an iPhone screen rather than through a USB drive.
Dismantling those two safety mechanisms would allow the FBI to use what’s known as a “brute force” attack on the San Bernardino shooter’s iPhone password. It would set up a computer, connected to the phone via a USB drive, that would try every single possible combination of numbers in the password, and eventually, by trial and error, break into that way. No encryption key necessary.
But in order to pull off such a brute force attack, it needs Apple to rewrite its operating system, and “sign it,” so to speak, with the official Apple key, so that the San Bernardino’s iPhone would accept the new version as a legitimate operating system update..
LINK
BTW I side with Apple
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 2/17/16 at 12:28 pm to CAD703X
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does the phone boot up? If it does I guarantee you with 100% certainty Apple can unlock access or change the password using the right software no matter how much you want to believe your phone is magic.
Before making another post you would be wise to go read up on these topics, public/private key encryption, RSA numbers, the use of semi-prime numbers in cryptography. The mathematical process used to encrypt the phone's password generates a public and private encryption key based on the product of two prime numbers, the more digits in the prime numbers the more secure the key. The apple cloud has the public part of the key the phone has the private half. It is mathematically impossible at this time for Apple, the FBI, the NSA or whoever to work backwards and derive the private key from the information they can access. The people working in cryto at MIT believe it will be 10 or more years if ever before enough computer power and a algorithm is available that can decrypt this type of encryption.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 12:29 pm to TDsngumbo
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frickin terrorist-supporting, Bern-feeling, liberal mother frickers.
So, they're "Bern-feeling, liberal motherfrickers" because they stand firmly in opposition to a massive overreach in power by the federal government?
Posted on 2/17/16 at 12:38 pm to Dick Leverage
quote:you should familiarize yourself with the American government, baw
Anyone who thinks for one second that the Feds would use this to attain info other than from this ONE case is just being paranoid.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 12:44 pm to CAD703X
This has to be an elaborate attempt at trolling.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 12:59 pm to CAD703X
LINK
Frick the government and frick you for supporting fascism.
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Rather than asking for legislative action through Congress, the FBI is proposing an unprecedented use of the All Writs Act of 1789 to justify an expansion of its authority.
The government would have us remove security features and add new capabilities to the operating system, allowing a passcode to be input electronically. This would make it easier to unlock an iPhone by “brute force,” trying thousands or millions of combinations with the speed of a modern computer. The implications of the government’s demands are chilling.
If the government can use the All Writs Act to make it easier to unlock your iPhone, it would have the power to reach into anyone’s device to capture their data.
The government could extend this breach of privacy and demand that Apple build surveillance software to intercept your messages, access your health records or financial data, track your location, or even access your phone’s microphone or camera without your knowledge.
Opposing this order is not something we take lightly. We feel we must speak up in the face of what we see as an overreach by the U.S. government. We are challenging the FBI’s demands with the deepest respect for American democracy and a love of our country. We believe it would be in the best interest of everyone to step back and consider the implications.
Frick the government and frick you for supporting fascism.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:18 pm to tigerpimpbot
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The government could extend this breach of privacy and demand that Apple build surveillance software to intercept your messages, access your health records or financial data, track your location, or even access your phone’s microphone or camera without your knowledge.
Don't some apps already do the bolded?
They should just buy a company like Popcap Games through a dummy corporation and stick spyware into every single free to play game they make. It would be a lot easier to create their own backdoor than it would be to demand Apple make them one.
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:23 pm to MrSmith
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does the phone boot up? If it does I guarantee you with 100% certainty Apple can unlock access or change the password using the right software
i understand you think you know how modern encryption works. hate to break it to you, you do not. without the private key that phone is a brick. this is why the FBI is asking to remove the self destruct feature so they can brute force the pin, because they also know real encryption cannot be cracked.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:23 pm to MrSmith
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Apps are sandboxed
it's pointless. ignorance is bliss.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:24 pm to colorchangintiger
I'm realizing that
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