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re: Apple acts all high and mighty.. Won't turn over password to terrorists iPhone
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:48 am to lsu02150
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:48 am to lsu02150
quote:does the phone boot up? If it does I guarantee you with 100% certainty Apple can unlock access or change the password using the right software no matter how much you want to believe your phone is magic.
Because the encryption key used is unique and generated for that device by that device. The iPhone won't let a computer
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 8:50 am
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:48 am to jeff5891
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jeff5891
It sounded right in my head. I'll leave it for posterity. 
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:50 am to CAD703X
quote:well the government can file a suit if they think apple does, and then search their documents in discovery.
because... They said so?
But would a judge allow that without some proof that apple might have access already, probably not.
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 8:53 am
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:51 am to CAD703X
From @SwiftonSecuirty:
I trust him/her knowledge on infosec way more than i trust yours.
quote:
It's believed, based on our understanding of iPhone 5s+ hardware, the FBI's request is not possible on them. Only iPhone 5c.
I trust him/her knowledge on infosec way more than i trust yours.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:53 am to CAD703X
quote:Do you know what 100% certainty means? READ THIS. Please
If it does I guarantee you with 100% certainty Apple can unlock access or change the password using the right software
Encryption key is created on the fly. You can load up xCode and view it for yourself. That part is 100% fact.
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 8:55 am
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:54 am to CAD703X
quote:
because... They said so?
It's stored in the Secure Enclave on the phone, which is part of the hardware walled off from the rest of hardware and software. All the OS ever sees is whether the key has been accepted or rejected. Apple never sees the key for the phone.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:54 am to colorchangintiger
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 8:57 am
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:57 am to CAD703X
quote:
frick you Tim Cook
frick you.
I hope Apple stands their ground.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:58 am to CAD703X
Guys, save your time. This is the same guy who started a thread extolling the virtues of buying recapped tires.
Now, he claims to have expertise in encryption but doesn't even understand how the lock screen works.
This is either one of the better trolls on this site or a shocking rebuke of the intelligence of IT professionals.
BTW, Apple can do anything they want by building a custom OS. They don't want to build one that can be hacked easier. That is the point.
What doesn't the FBI know about these people? They know where the guns came from. They know where the money trail leads. They know where they lived and where they were born and where they traveled. I thought the NSA was hovering up all of this metadata? What is on the guys old work phone that they need to know? He crushed and burned his personal phone.
Now, he claims to have expertise in encryption but doesn't even understand how the lock screen works.
This is either one of the better trolls on this site or a shocking rebuke of the intelligence of IT professionals.
BTW, Apple can do anything they want by building a custom OS. They don't want to build one that can be hacked easier. That is the point.
What doesn't the FBI know about these people? They know where the guns came from. They know where the money trail leads. They know where they lived and where they were born and where they traveled. I thought the NSA was hovering up all of this metadata? What is on the guys old work phone that they need to know? He crushed and burned his personal phone.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:01 am to CAD703X
quote:
So let me get this straight:
Apple is publicly announcing today that terrorists and other criminals can step up their game if they go ios instead of Windows?
You are so dumb
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:04 am to TigerBait1127
apple cant crack the encryption. it doesnt work that way. what they are asking of them is to disable the self destruct feature so the FBI can attempt to guess the passcode via brute force.
while terrorist suck, i can promise you the last thing all of you want is this precedent to be set.
while terrorist suck, i can promise you the last thing all of you want is this precedent to be set.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:09 am to CAD703X
Why don't they just use the dead talibans thumbprint?
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:10 am to Boudreaux35
quote:
So, the FBI can ransack their home or hideout for any information hidden there, but they aren't allowed to search the phone?
Seems like the search warrant theory would apply to this also.
This is dumb.
Yes, your post is very dumb.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:11 am to TigerBait1127
quote:There's no way he even read the article
Yes, your post is very dumb.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:12 am to lsu480
quote:
Why don't they just use the dead talibans thumbprint?
Because they'd rather have a backdoor to open all iPhones.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:19 am to Old Hellen Yeller
For those posting from a work computer
Check out Spector 360 software
Check out Spector 360 software
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:20 am to Old Hellen Yeller
quote:
Because they'd rather have a backdoor to open all iPhones.
Even if Apple did agree to create an iOS version with a backdoor, it would do no good in this case. How the eff is the FBI going to install an update without the passcode or erasing the phone?
CAD has to be trolling at this point. This thread did not go as he planned (or did it?)
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 9:21 am
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:21 am to TigerRob20
quote:I think so as well
CAD has to be trolling at this point.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:24 am to MrSmith
The ole "I got my arse kicked in the debate so I'll play it off like I was trolling" strategy.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:26 am to TigerBait1127
quote:
For those posting from a work computer
Check out Spector 360 software
how is this relevant?
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