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re: Free Agent Shopping
Posted on 1/17/14 at 5:08 pm to bonethug0108
Posted on 1/17/14 at 5:08 pm to bonethug0108
quote:
bonethug0108
Should your catch phrase be:
YOU'VE BEEN THUGGED
or
YOU'VE BEEN BONED
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Posted on 1/17/14 at 5:10 pm to Zoombop
I like the second one, but to be more accurate it should be "This reply is too long too read so just ignore it."
Posted on 1/17/14 at 5:50 pm to bonethug0108
I'm curious to see what Spikes is gonna get. He would be an incredible upgrade at ILB.
Obviously I want Thurmond, but he's gonna be expensive.
I'll be curious to see what Vontae Davis gets. I think he could be a solid upgrade and not break the bank.
Obviously I want Thurmond, but he's gonna be expensive.
I'll be curious to see what Vontae Davis gets. I think he could be a solid upgrade and not break the bank.
Posted on 1/17/14 at 6:26 pm to FootballNostradamus
I think realistically we get one somewhat big name in FA.
Posted on 1/17/14 at 6:38 pm to Jizzamo311
I think Sanders could be a really really nice get for a reasonable price. He is a younger Meacham with fresher legs. He runs those deep intermediate to deep routes pretty well. We could then draft a big bodied physical guy (wouldn't need to be first rd). Would then have colston and the rookie as bigger bodied guys, Stiles, Sanders, and Morgan to get up the field, and graham stretching the middle. Nice mix of youth and experience with only colston and graham being highly paid.
This post was edited on 1/17/14 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 1/17/14 at 6:51 pm to St Augustine
PFF Free Agency Tracker worth keeping bookmarked
Top FA Kickers by their metrics (age & rating)
Graham Gano K 27 CAR UFA 45.0
Dan Bailey K 26 DAL RFA 41.3
Steven Hauschka K 29 SEA UFA 33.8
Pat McAfee P 27 IND UFA 32.4
Billy Cundiff K 34 CLV UFA 28.6
Nick Folk K 29 NYJ UFA 25.2
WRs (age, ratings, + snaps played)
Anquan Boldin 33 SF UFA 17.9 831
Eric Decker 27 DEN UFA 16.9 1073
Doug Baldwin 25 SEA RFA 11.0 773
Golden Tate 26 SEA UFA 11.0 790
Jerricho Cotchery 32 PIT UFA 10.3 648
Julian Edelman 28 NE UFA 8.9 1038
Jerome Simpson 28 MIN UFA 6.8 658
Robert Meachem 29 NO UFA 5.6 401
Riley Cooper 26 PHI UFA 5.3 1002
Ted Ginn 29 CAR UFA 4.4 508
James Jones 30 GB UFA 2.9 863
Centers
Dominic Raiola 35 DET UFA 18.6 1156
Alex Mack 28 CLV UFA 17.8 1150
Evan Dietrich-Smith 28 GB UFA 12.1 1073
Roberto Garza 35 CHI UFA 7.2 1070
Jonathan Goodwin 35 SF UFA 5.8 1001
Brian De La Puente 29 NO UFA 4.0 1154
CBs
Brent Grimes 31 MIA UFA 16.4 1132
Vontae Davis 26 IND UFA 15.5 951
Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie 28 DEN UFA 13.0 787
Chris Harris Jr. 25 DEN RFA 10.9 1059
Captain Munnerlyn 26 CAR UFA 10.1 992
Alterraun Verner 25 TEN UFA 9.5 1023
Drayton Florence 33 CAR UFA 7.2 600
Will Blackmon 29 JAX UFA 7.2 682
Trumaine McBride 28 NYG UFA 6.6 621
Safeties
T.J. Ward 27 CLV UFA 14.5 1124
Donte Whitner 29 SF UFA 11.5 1033
Jairus Byrd 27 BUF UFA 9.9 646
James Ihedigbo 30 BLT UFA 4.7 1098
Chris D. Clemons 28 MIA UFA 4.1 1158
Bernard Pollard 29 TEN UFA 3.4 1077
Top FA Kickers by their metrics (age & rating)
Graham Gano K 27 CAR UFA 45.0
Dan Bailey K 26 DAL RFA 41.3
Steven Hauschka K 29 SEA UFA 33.8
Pat McAfee P 27 IND UFA 32.4
Billy Cundiff K 34 CLV UFA 28.6
Nick Folk K 29 NYJ UFA 25.2
WRs (age, ratings, + snaps played)
Anquan Boldin 33 SF UFA 17.9 831
Eric Decker 27 DEN UFA 16.9 1073
Doug Baldwin 25 SEA RFA 11.0 773
Golden Tate 26 SEA UFA 11.0 790
Jerricho Cotchery 32 PIT UFA 10.3 648
Julian Edelman 28 NE UFA 8.9 1038
Jerome Simpson 28 MIN UFA 6.8 658
Robert Meachem 29 NO UFA 5.6 401
Riley Cooper 26 PHI UFA 5.3 1002
Ted Ginn 29 CAR UFA 4.4 508
James Jones 30 GB UFA 2.9 863
Centers
Dominic Raiola 35 DET UFA 18.6 1156
Alex Mack 28 CLV UFA 17.8 1150
Evan Dietrich-Smith 28 GB UFA 12.1 1073
Roberto Garza 35 CHI UFA 7.2 1070
Jonathan Goodwin 35 SF UFA 5.8 1001
Brian De La Puente 29 NO UFA 4.0 1154
CBs
Brent Grimes 31 MIA UFA 16.4 1132
Vontae Davis 26 IND UFA 15.5 951
Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie 28 DEN UFA 13.0 787
Chris Harris Jr. 25 DEN RFA 10.9 1059
Captain Munnerlyn 26 CAR UFA 10.1 992
Alterraun Verner 25 TEN UFA 9.5 1023
Drayton Florence 33 CAR UFA 7.2 600
Will Blackmon 29 JAX UFA 7.2 682
Trumaine McBride 28 NYG UFA 6.6 621
Safeties
T.J. Ward 27 CLV UFA 14.5 1124
Donte Whitner 29 SF UFA 11.5 1033
Jairus Byrd 27 BUF UFA 9.9 646
James Ihedigbo 30 BLT UFA 4.7 1098
Chris D. Clemons 28 MIA UFA 4.1 1158
Bernard Pollard 29 TEN UFA 3.4 1077
Posted on 1/17/14 at 7:46 pm to blueslover
Blueslover,
Does that ranking system factor in things like a player's age and contract situation or is it a pure ranking of the player's ability?
Some of those ratings are a little strange to say the least.
Does that ranking system factor in things like a player's age and contract situation or is it a pure ranking of the player's ability?
Some of those ratings are a little strange to say the least.
Posted on 1/17/14 at 7:47 pm to blueslover
Give me Alteraun Verner to man opposite of Lewis. That takes care of CBs, pass on the available safeties. Id rather take a young explosive safety in the draft(Deone Buchannon or Don Bailey) and resign R. Bush. I think DLP did decent this yr (surely could've done better but also could've done worse) so resign if at right price.The only WR I would consider is James Jones but I would still take WR in 1st or 2nd rd depending on defensive Free Agency signings. Just my thoughts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 7:49 pm to blueslover
Vontae Davis or Alterraun Verner please
Posted on 1/17/14 at 7:55 pm to blueslover
I love FA. I love it more than the draft, even though I love the draft.
Even so, I just can't seem to wrap my head around the FA period this soon, although I will come to this thread later.
Even so, I just can't seem to wrap my head around the FA period this soon, although I will come to this thread later.
Posted on 1/17/14 at 7:57 pm to seibert23
quote:
Give me Alteraun Verner
He's going to make $8m+ a year. We won't be able to afford him without letting Graham go.
Posted on 1/17/14 at 7:59 pm to Patrick O Rly
Feb. 17: First day for clubs to designate franchise or transition Players.
Feb. 19-25: Combine, Lucas Oil Stadium, Indianapolis
March 8-11: Clubs are permitted to contact, and enter into contract negotiations with, the certified agents of players who will become unrestricted free agents upon the expiration of their 2013 player contracts at 4 p.m. ET on March 11. However, a contract cannot be executed with a new club until 4 p.m. ET on March 11.
March 11: New league year, free agency begins
March 11: Before 4 p.m. ET, clubs must exercise options for 2014 on all players who have option clauses in their 2013 contracts.
March 11: Before 4 p.m. ET, clubs must submit qualifying offers to their restricted free agents with expiring contracts.
March 11: Before 4 p.m. ET, clubs must submit a minimum salary tender to retain exclusive negotiating rights to their players with expiring 2013 contracts and who have fewer than three accrued Seasons of free agency credit.
March 11: All clubs must be under the 2014 salary cap before 4 p.m. ET.
March 23-26: Owners meeting, Orlando, Fla.
April 7: Clubs that hired a new head coach after the end of the 2013 regular season may begin off-season workout programs.
April 21: Clubs with returning head coaches may begin off-season workout programs.
May 2: Deadline for restricted free agents to sign offer sheets.
May 7: Deadline for prior club to exercise right of first refusal to restricted free agents.
May 8-10: NFL draft, New York, Radio City Music Hall. First round begins at 8 p.m. ET.
Feb. 19-25: Combine, Lucas Oil Stadium, Indianapolis
March 8-11: Clubs are permitted to contact, and enter into contract negotiations with, the certified agents of players who will become unrestricted free agents upon the expiration of their 2013 player contracts at 4 p.m. ET on March 11. However, a contract cannot be executed with a new club until 4 p.m. ET on March 11.
March 11: New league year, free agency begins
March 11: Before 4 p.m. ET, clubs must exercise options for 2014 on all players who have option clauses in their 2013 contracts.
March 11: Before 4 p.m. ET, clubs must submit qualifying offers to their restricted free agents with expiring contracts.
March 11: Before 4 p.m. ET, clubs must submit a minimum salary tender to retain exclusive negotiating rights to their players with expiring 2013 contracts and who have fewer than three accrued Seasons of free agency credit.
March 11: All clubs must be under the 2014 salary cap before 4 p.m. ET.
March 23-26: Owners meeting, Orlando, Fla.
April 7: Clubs that hired a new head coach after the end of the 2013 regular season may begin off-season workout programs.
April 21: Clubs with returning head coaches may begin off-season workout programs.
May 2: Deadline for restricted free agents to sign offer sheets.
May 7: Deadline for prior club to exercise right of first refusal to restricted free agents.
May 8-10: NFL draft, New York, Radio City Music Hall. First round begins at 8 p.m. ET.
Posted on 1/17/14 at 8:00 pm to Chad504boy
eta: I think that's the first time that's ever happened. Remember when we were sworn enemies?
This post was edited on 1/17/14 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 1/17/14 at 8:39 pm to bonethug0108
Solid work, bone.
Midget, get in here and atone for your sins!
Midget, get in here and atone for your sins!
Posted on 1/17/14 at 9:20 pm to THRILLHO
quote:
He's going to make $8m+ a year. We won't be able to afford him without letting Graham go.
Yea I think Verner is going to get overpaid. How much do you think Talib and Spikes will make?
I know it will never happen, but I would LOVE for us to trade Graham, sign Talib and Spikes, then draft C/OT, WR, and S in the draft,
Posted on 1/17/14 at 9:29 pm to FootballNostradamus
quote:
How much do you think Talib and Spikes will make?
I'd guess Talib will make in that $7-8m/yr range, but on a shorter term deal than Verner. Talib is a better player (he was on some MVP lists after the Saints game) but is older and has the off field issues.
Spikes is coming off the IR and doesn't play passing downs, so he won't be pricey.
Posted on 1/17/14 at 10:16 pm to THRILLHO
Verner and Davis are top-10, maybe top-5 cornerbacks in the NFL today. No way we get either of them.
All we need at corner is a steady No. 2 guy, not a top corner. We've seen how teams with too many No. 1 corners end up. Philly was terrible with Rodgers-Cromartie, Asomugha, and Samuel. The Jets weren't special with Cromartie and Revis. It's not worth it to throw so much money at those spots because sometimes guys are just going to get beat.
Sign Corey Graham or Captain Munnerlyn to reasonable deals, and draft a corner. That position will then be set with Lewis, White, and Robinson all coming back. Rod Sweeting and Trevin Wade will both have shots to make the roster. If Greer comes back healthy, then that's great. No need to invest too heavily.
All we need at corner is a steady No. 2 guy, not a top corner. We've seen how teams with too many No. 1 corners end up. Philly was terrible with Rodgers-Cromartie, Asomugha, and Samuel. The Jets weren't special with Cromartie and Revis. It's not worth it to throw so much money at those spots because sometimes guys are just going to get beat.
Sign Corey Graham or Captain Munnerlyn to reasonable deals, and draft a corner. That position will then be set with Lewis, White, and Robinson all coming back. Rod Sweeting and Trevin Wade will both have shots to make the roster. If Greer comes back healthy, then that's great. No need to invest too heavily.
Posted on 1/17/14 at 10:17 pm to Zoombop
quote:
Captain Munnerlyn
Posted on 1/17/14 at 10:23 pm to Zoombop
Also, I don't get the desire to sign Brandon Spikes. He was put on IR for missing multiple meetings, showing character concerns he's had since college. He's a two-down player. And he's less of an athlete than Hawthorne or Lofton. The guy ran a 5.0 40 at the combine, twice. Not a gifted athlete.
I'm also not buying Emmanuel Sanders or Julian Edelman as upgrades to this team. Sanders isn't a deep threat, and he just came off of the worst season of his career despite getting more snaps and opportunities. He's an average slot guy.
Edelman is a solid player, but I don't think he leaves New England. He's too valuable to Tom Brady and that offense, especially considering the injury history around Danny Amendola and Gronkowski. And again, he's just a slot guy, not the homerun hitter/total physical package we've been clamoring for on this board.
Not meaning to take a dump on everyone, but I'm just trying to bring us back to Earth.
I'm also not buying Emmanuel Sanders or Julian Edelman as upgrades to this team. Sanders isn't a deep threat, and he just came off of the worst season of his career despite getting more snaps and opportunities. He's an average slot guy.
Edelman is a solid player, but I don't think he leaves New England. He's too valuable to Tom Brady and that offense, especially considering the injury history around Danny Amendola and Gronkowski. And again, he's just a slot guy, not the homerun hitter/total physical package we've been clamoring for on this board.
Not meaning to take a dump on everyone, but I'm just trying to bring us back to Earth.
Posted on 1/17/14 at 10:28 pm to Zoombop
While I'm at it, I'd also be okay paying Nick Folk up to $2 million a year to make the ball fly through between the goal posts without having to cross my fingers and pray every time.
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