re: Westworld S01 E09: "The Well-Tempered Clavier"

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Something needs to happen so I can see one of the time period theorist groups melt. It cracks me up how people think there is evidence so far that determines anything regarding when any story is taking place.

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That shite still ain't true

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frick. I quit

What an episode. That ending..

So many WOW moments in this episode.

Hopefully we can discuss the timeframes now that the hammer they have spent 9 episodes hitting the slow folk over the head with has been all but revealed.

And yes, fricking amazing episode.

All you pretentious motherfrickers who scoffed at the multiple timeline theory should go purchase a 6 foot straw at Walmart and literally suck your own arse.

Watching now, .. watched TWD first.

I was just about to link my post in last week's thread. It's a major tl;dr but part of it came to form.

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Bernard = Arnold. In the meeting in Ford's office, Ford tells PresentBernard that Arnold's personal life had a lot of pain and he dissolved into his work. Next scene is cut to "Bernard" talking to his wife over the video phone, I actually think this is a flashback to PastArnold talking to his wife. I think the meetings with Dolores clothed are PastArnold meetings with Dolores. I do think they have the same backstory about the death of the son. Also another telling line was PastArnold telling his wife on the video call when she said "I don't know if these convos hurt or help" and PastArnold says "the pain is all I have leftover of him" -same exact line Maeve uses when she lost her "daughter".

On a completely different note and I know it's been hammered enough, butI do think we are seeing different timeframes..... it's not that cut and dry though. The last episode when Ford tells PresentBernard when he erases his memory of the Theresa murder something like "it's best to forget and not get lost in these memories like some of your other hosts have" as Ford is making that statement it cuts to Dolores finding the old town. I think William is in a past timeframe, but when we are seeing Dolores from her own perspective, she is lost in memories with him. I don't know a better way to describe how I'm seeing it. William will end up being MIB too many hints and clues IMO, if it doesn't happen, it doesn't, but I just can't see them bringing light of so many similarities (aside from lacking of a mole). The whole Dolores finding the town scene just made my brain really start going, she comes up on the town with William and is like "this is home", then it's her walking by herself up to this empty town and then she sees the flashback to before the park opened, then William jumps in right when she is about to shoot herself and they are at an unearthed town, same steeple that's been being dug up for a while, but everything is untouched. Then she asks if William is real and if he's really there of which he responds that he is. I think it's like almost she's just stuck in a dream state-stuck on a loop in her memories.

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I think we are seeing the memories from William's perspective and Dolores is actually living those memories but in the present.

Also, this episode, Bernard tells ford that "Trauma can lead to enlightenment" then it flashed over to William and Dolores's scene with her getting cut open. I think the 'trauma' was William's enlightenment. He gonna end up being MIB. I just don't see it being any other way.