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re: Westworld S01 E09: "The Well-Tempered Clavier"

Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:14 pm to
Posted by musick
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:14 pm to
Great episode
Posted by UnluckyTiger
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:15 pm to
I wonder how many times Bernard has killed himself.
Posted by TigerPox
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:15 pm to
I legit teared up at the end. :(

Posted by TigerPox
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:19 pm to
What's everyone's thoughts on why (or who) sent the security dude (thor's bro) in to get ambushed?? With Elsie's tablet leading him to that spot? Unless it's Ford converting everyone to a host. I have no clue.
Posted by bamafan1001
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:29 pm to
Ford is a truly evil character. He definitely killed Arnold. Why would he have killed Elsie when she discovered the board undermining him?
Posted by LSUButt
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:31 pm to
I love these shows, but I'm just to fricking stupid. Thank goodness for all of y'all. I will say I had a feeling it was at least 2 timelines, and I'm quite convinced of that now. But some of the things you people pick up on with the speech...jeeez, simply amazing
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:35 pm to
So, Bernarnold AND two timeframes. I'll just sit here and wait for apologies.

EDIT: They won't happen. It doesn't look like much to a lot of people.

EDIT 2: My first edit was too strong. This isn't the OT. My apologies to everyone. At least we can all agree that this a fantastic show.
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 9:57 pm
Posted by Hester Carries
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:40 pm to
quote:

It doesn't look like much to a lot of people.


clever
Posted by cokebottleag
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:42 pm to
I'll be here to take my crow. I called you bastards idiots, looks like I'm the one who was wrong.

I did call Bernarnold tho. So I got that goin for me. Which is nice.

Also, clearly William is MiB. Also clear is that he has never raped Dolores. The scene in episode one where he implies it, is him cutting her open every time to see if she can understand, or become self aware.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:45 pm to
So Dolores has already killed Arnold when she meets Logan and William. Logan takes over dads company (Delos) which buys the park to save it from ruin. Logan is still on the board of the park as MiB.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:47 pm to
quote:

Also clear is that he has never raped Dolores. The scene in episode one where he implies it, is him cutting her open every time to see if she can understand, or become self aware.
I like this theory better than mine.
Posted by WhistlinDixie15
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:49 pm to
Just discussed with my buddy who is leaning to the board chick (charlotte?) is actually MIBs daughter given their encounter... it would make sense how she would have a board seat at a young age

Also, William kills BIL and it's covered up as an accident... his soon to be wife lives with grief over her brother dying by accident later to find out that her husband murdered him and was in love with a robot (enough reason for an emotionally unstable person to kill themself)
Posted by LesGeaux45
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:50 pm to
The only thing I don't understand is if William is the MiB, how does Dolores see the present day William/MiB walk into the church at the end of the episode and not past William? Isn't that during the past timeline?
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 9:50 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:54 pm to
No. It's 3 time frames. Frame 1 in the blue dress early on with Arnold alive. Frame 2 with William in the cowgirl outfit but she's hurt and takes off who knows where. And Frame 3 where she follows that path again after Teddy leaves with MiB and she shoots the rapist going back on the path where she ends up at the church again. I'm assuming this is "present time" during which Maeve is self aware.
Posted by cokebottleag
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:55 pm to
We have seen "escalante" now in 3 time periods.

"Incident": Dolores remembers it populated during that period, in a flashback durin her visit with young William. It's also where she is in the blue dress there.

Young William period: it's covered in sand, destroyed.

Old William period: it's been restored for the new Wyatt storyline. Not populated yet.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:55 pm to
His daughter wouldn't have been so nice to him.
Posted by guedeaux
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:55 pm to
I'm still confused about some of the timeframe stuff.

William loses that picture 30 years in the past. Ford was older when Bernard came online, and Bernard was there when Mr. Abernathy found the picture. So, that picture was hanging around the park for a long time before being found?

And is Teddy really Wyatt?
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 9:58 pm
Posted by StarSaint
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:58 pm to
This series is pretty remarkable.

I'm loving the way it's playing out....
Posted by TigerPox
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:59 pm to
My thoughts on that:
The church was functional way way back when
The church was functional when Arnold had secret meetings with hosts
The church was buried during William's timeframe
The church was recently unearthed during MIB's timeframe

That church/area is gonna be where the massacre went down. The flashes of Dolores walking through a hallway with bodies still laid about in present and then flashback to it all being clean and functional back in the day.
Posted by cokebottleag
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 10:01 pm to
- I think we now know the purpose for Dolores having such a bit part in the park after the "incident." the only reason for her not being decommissioned seems to be to torment her. Or because MiB demands she be kept.

- is teddy "Wyatt?" Or is the hooker chick referring to something else when she tells him it was him?
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