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re: This opting out BS has to be fixed

Posted on 12/22/22 at 12:47 am to
Posted by steamengineRR
Member since Nov 2016
253 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 12:47 am to
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It’s probably more likely to die while waiting for your 2 week notice to expire than to get a career ending injury in a bowl game. Literally never happens


See Jaylon Smith, Jake Butt.

It’s not really about career ending injuries or just top draft picks. If you are a mid to late rd projected pick, you can really boost your draft stock if you crush the combine compared to just playing and getting two tackles in the Loaded Potato Bowl. So if you get a non career ending injury but won’t be 100% in the combine, you’re screwed. One game won’t make a difference, but a huge combine does.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 1:33 am to
Good opportunity to see what we have and if we need to hit the portal for more DL.
Posted by Sneauxghost
Member since Sep 2020
1085 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 1:55 am to
They get scholarships and nil, they should play or pay back.
Posted by Nexus of the Univers
New York City
Member since Feb 2018
323 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 5:51 am to
I think as fans we have to change how we view these non-playoff games. Instead of season ending duds, look at it as a jamboree of sorts for next year.

Hell if I was a coach I'd thank every senior and junior that declares for draft for a job well done on the season, but they're only traveling to bowl game as a reward. No practice reps and no play. All of it goes to the returning underclassmen.
Posted by Toki Wartooth
Mordhaus
Member since Mar 2019
746 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 5:58 am to
quote:

They get scholarships and nil, they should play or pay back.


Get real. Pay back 3-4 years of schooling and NIL money just for sitting out the cheezit bowl? Their job is done so let them move on.

Forcing guys to play when their heart is not in it is never going to work.
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
24633 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 6:00 am to
Only further proving my point that pointless bowl games are stupid, if the best players don’t care about playing in them why should they be played. I get it sponsors get to have a huge tax write off and the third string will get game reps but they can scrimmage each other and get the same work in
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10267 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 6:09 am to
NCAA needs to make a rule that forces them to forfeit their scholarship the next year and if it’s their last year, pay back the previous year. If it’s all about money for these kids, then make it about money.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 6:14 am to
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If someone offered you a promotion worth millions annually, told you you didn’t have to finish out your 2 week notice, and if you do there’s a 10% chance you go brain dead then you don’t get that promotion anymore…would you do it?

Bruh it’s football not WW2
Posted by countrytiger60
Larose
Member since Sep 2018
3641 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 6:18 am to
the game is played for the fans. if nobody payed to go to the games. we wouldn't have college sports.or any pro sports either.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53853 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 6:20 am to
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Something needs to be done to disincentivize this


It was obvious that the Bowls would turn into the NIT once the CFP was started and once it expands it will only get worse. Once it is expanded to 12 teams, opt outs will start happening well before the bowl season...just wait.
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
4941 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 6:22 am to
I think this problem will begin to disappear as the program distances itself from the former regime. It seems to me that NIL money could also be used as incentives to play. Plug Perkins in at Jack, Jones at defensive end (Gaye is no loss), and Wingo who had a better year than Roy at tackle. Tygee Hill and West will have to provide depth. The best defense in this game will be keeping the ball away from Purdue.
Posted by ChenierauTigre
Dreamland
Member since Dec 2007
34522 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 6:22 am to
I'm afraid you are right about this.
Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
12962 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 6:35 am to
How many career ending injuries occurred in a bowl game?
Posted by Monsieur le Duc
Château de Chantilly
Member since Aug 2014
674 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 6:50 am to
the biggest beneficiary of the playoffs-expanded or otherwise-is espn.

we’re turning the college game into the nfl, and that’s a very bad thing.
Posted by BenAround
Member since Feb 2011
20 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 6:51 am to
The bowl games are played for the SEC and LSU to make $$$ from TV …

Posted by schwartzy
New Orleans
Member since May 2014
9036 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 6:52 am to
Wasn't every bowl meaningless other than the BCS national championship? I don't know why it's only recently that all bowl games other than the CFP seem all of a sudden uninspiring.

I just had so much passion for LSU football when I was younger that if I was ever a player I'd want to represent the SEC, LSU, and beat the hell out of Purdue. I guess players don't play like that, have that pride, or think like that anymore. When Penn St. beat us in the Citrus Bowl in 2010, that mattered to me. It was a damper on the season. Similarly, beating Notre Dame in 2017 in the same bowl would have had us at a very solid 10-3 (6-2 SEC) the same year we lost to Troy, but of course, count on Ed to frick up something as simple as a 1-Yd play with Guice, again...
This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 6:54 am
Posted by CBK
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2022
669 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 6:59 am to
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This opting out BS has to be fixed


And what exactly do you propose???

You certainly cannot force a kid that has a future in the NFL to play in a meaningless “exhibition game” outside of the CFP. These days, kids can transfer from one school to the next simply because a coach yelled at them in practice or they think they should be a starter. Kids are making NIL money, and it’s pretty much a free-for-all. There is no turning back now. What you see is what you’ve got.
Posted by Ryan3232
Valet driver for TD staff
Member since Dec 2008
25810 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 7:05 am to
Id be pissed if several players were opting out of the final four playoffs. Dont really care too much in this current scenario.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22321 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 7:09 am to
quote:

It sucks, but you can't force them to play.

Really? Why not? LSU didn't opt out of providing a free education and a world stage to display their talents. Why is the university the only one expected to keep its end of the deal? Coddle much?
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
51270 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 7:11 am to
quote:

And what exactly do you propose


Shorter term NIL deals. Gordon already does this to a certain extent.

If i was paying someone to represent my company I wouldnt want the possible backlash of him opting out.

Structure the deal through the end of regular season then re-up with the players prepping for the bowl.
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