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re: Dawkins: "immoral to bring [Down's Syndrome baby] into the world"
Posted on 8/21/14 at 9:33 am to TN Bhoy
Posted on 8/21/14 at 9:33 am to TN Bhoy
quote:So, since the answer to that question relative to >20wks EGA is unquestionably "yes", what was his point?
The question is not ‘is it human’?’ but ‘can it suffer?’”
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 9:36 am to JT
quote:
Except that SH does not have DS and was totally normal at birth.
My apologies. I knew he was not DS, but I was unaware that he was normal at birth.
I take Dawkins' statement more generally and not specific to DS. I'm sure he would be OK for aborting any baby with any abnormality.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 9:38 am to uway
quote:
I want to know what is so magic about the door through which "fetuses" become "babies" that on one side they can't feel pain or suffer and on the other side they can.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 9:39 am to NC_Tigah
Yes, most "fetuses" show signs even earlier of feeling pain. And again, that's a little dishonest. Many humans have been killed without suffering. It doesn't make it okay.
And I helped out with the Alabama Angels pageant a few weeks ago. Richard Dawkins can go DIAF
And I helped out with the Alabama Angels pageant a few weeks ago. Richard Dawkins can go DIAF
Posted on 8/21/14 at 9:40 am to TN Bhoy
quote:
The question is not ‘is it human’?’ but ‘can it suffer?'
Maybe I'm confused by the intent of this question, but I read this to mean he believes it to be more humane to abort the down's baby because of all the suffering the baby will face in his/her lifetime. The short-term suffering of aborting the baby is small in comparison to this hypothetical situation we all automatically assume will come to fruition.
To that end I ask: Are there people on this earth who can't suffer? Wouldn't this threshold make the murder of anyone acceptable because we will all almost certainly suffer greater ills by the time our lives are over?
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 9:44 am
Posted on 8/21/14 at 9:41 am to NikolaiJakov
quote:^ This ^
I think we should abort Richard Dawkins.
If you've ever been around a Down's kid, you'd know that they often represent the best of humanity.
Confirmation that Dawkins is little more than an arrogant prick.
Good example of how often arrogance is confused with intelligence.
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 9:42 am
Posted on 8/21/14 at 9:42 am to TN Bhoy
We are going back to eugenics. It's happening.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 9:42 am to Radiojones
quote:
If you've ever been around a Down's kid, you'd know that they often represent the best of humanity.
Agree 100%...I've worked with many of them in the past, and they are some of the best people to be around. They also never seem to forget a face, and will always come tell you hi when they see you.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 9:45 am to TN Bhoy
This just gives me a chill. What a cold hearted man.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 9:48 am to genro
quote:
We are going back to eugenics. It's happening.
100% agree.
Love is dying.
ETA: it can't die, but not for lack of the human race trying to kill it
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 9:49 am
Posted on 8/21/14 at 9:50 am to mtntiger
quote:
I'm sure he would be OK for aborting any baby with any abnormality.
There was a female poster on this site that said she would abort any baby that had any disability.
These people disgust me. I'm sure I'd enjoy the company of Tim in another poster's link more than that bitch or RD.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 9:54 am to TK421
quote:
Dawkins
What a disgusting human being.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 9:54 am to TN Bhoy
i totally agree with Dawkins on that
Posted on 8/21/14 at 9:58 am to TK421
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This post was edited on 10/3/20 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 8/21/14 at 9:59 am to Northwestern tiger
The key problem is the general idea of, "I can't bring somebody into such suffering" when in reality, they're already here.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:02 am to mauser
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This just gives me a chill. What a cold hearted man.
This man fancies himself the leader of the enlightened atheists, but he has lost his moral compass and even his basic sense of human decency. Its sad that there are those who think in those terms..... Taking this a step further one can forsee his ilk seeking to advocate some sort of genetic planning, eliminating the undesirable elements before birth by predictive analysis. Perhaps even seeking to eliminate the old, infirm or disabled by viewing their suffering as something that should not be permitted to exist.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:02 am to Huey Lewis
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I probably find your personal morals just as disagreeable as Dawkins' or anyone else that isn't me.
Then you're a dumbass.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:03 am to Huey Lewis
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I want the freedom to decide for myself if I was ever in that situation, and I want everyone else to quit shoving their crap down my throat about whatever morals they support.
You want you want you want you want
At least you wouldn't be confused about why you were aborting the baby. It would be to save yourself the suffering you imagine having such a child to be.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:04 am to TN Bhoy
quote:
Atheist author Richard Dawkins provoked a firestorm Wednesday on Twitter
Well we know the author has an agenda when he begins his piece "atheist author Richard Dawkins"
quote:
Irish Catholic Aidan McCourt
This is funny Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:06 am to Taxing Authority
quote:Oh I've never confused you with intelligence.
Good example of how often arrogance is confused with intelligence.
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