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Stingray
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Was it over military dominance? That's fricking stupid.


They are playing the talking game to avoid our bombing. what is confusing you?






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Patrick O Rly
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Why do you have so much contempt for America?

I read your posts everyday and everything that comes out your posts is always bad about this country?



You have to admit there is wholesale sunshine pumping of our countries history. The founders weren't enlightened men. They weren't even original. They pretty much adopted the English Bill of rights and reconfigured British government . They were very smart and wrote beautiful propaganda, but they set up a government that would benefit them and their business interest.

I think you can very much love America and not love the entity that claims to act on it's behalf.






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Interception
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Also interesting seeing some that were anti bama now defending him


Some might not particularly like the presidents policies but still pull for him. I know it's horrible.






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acgeaux129
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Try to keep up.


I'm trying I'm trying! Can you please slow down a little bit?

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Don't be going off on straw mans now, boy.


Well, that's what you want, isn't it? Should we or should we not set up governments? Is there some other form of anarchism that you prefer?

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:deflect:


Not really. It's a little bit past my bed time to waste time talking about AF bases in this higher level discussion.

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And...? How is that relevant to the fact that decades of atrocities =/= benevolence?


As I have stated many times, no one is denying that America has a very imperfect past.






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acgeaux129
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I don't punch everyone I see in the face, because of how benevolent I am.



You're being silly.






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SlowFlowPro
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Are you denying the fact that the state of California paid settlers for every scalp or for every severed Native American head they returned? Are you denying the enslavement of those same people? Thousands of people of all ages were murdered.

it's not a good thing, but it's not some novel concept, and it has no impact on a discussion about our country 125+ years later

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“[Unless the Indians are sent east of the Sierras] a War of Extermination will continue to be waged until the Indian race should become extinct…”- Peter Burnett (Gov. of CA) 1851

Nope. Not a holocaust.

do you think that white settlers would not have slaughtered natives had there not been governments?






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SlowFlowPro
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How is that relevant to the fact that decades of atrocities =/= benevolence?

those atrocities should only be compared to the atrocities of other civilizations. we're tame as shit

atrocities are part of human nature, regardless of government






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Roaad
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what is confusing you?
Where did I say I was confused? I fully understand your retarded post. That's why I called it stupid.

If I was confused, I would have asked you what you meant, or asked for further clarification on the parts I failed understanding.

But that isn't what I said. I said,
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That's fricking stupid.
See, that's what I say when there is something stupid said.

Hope I cleared up any confusion.

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They are playing the talking game to avoid our bombing.
They are brokering peace because they know they have a social and financial interest in Assad keeping Al Qaeda and other muslim extremists far from having absolute control over Syria.






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acgeaux129
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those atrocities should only be compared to the atrocities of other civilizations. we're tame as shite

atrocities are part of human nature, regardless of government






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Roaad
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atrocities are part of human nature, regardless of government
So. . .what was the argument against Putin by acgeaux?






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acgeaux129
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lol wut





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Stingray
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what is confusing you? Where did I say I was confused? I fully understand your retarded post. That's why I called it stupid. If I was confused, I would have asked you what you meant, or asked for further clarification on the parts I failed understanding. But that isn't what I said. I said, quote: That's fricking stupid. See, that's what I say when there is something stupid said. Hope I cleared up any confusion.


Much aimless wandering butthurt in this post. I suggest you direct your hilarious, almost clever internet anger into something more productive.



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Roaad
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Much aimless wandering butthurt in this post. I suggest you direct your hilarious, almost clever internet anger into something more productive.
Are you under the impression that I am angry?







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Blue Velvet
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it's not a good thing, but it's not some novel concept
Agreed.
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it has no impact on a discussion about our country 125+ years later
Then neither does Russia's history?
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do you think that white settlers would not have slaughtered natives had there not been governments?
I'm sure many would have. Are you denying that paying those people to murder natives escalated the pace and magnitude of their demise? And/or that this act doesn't fit the definition of a systematic genocide?
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those atrocities should only be compared to the atrocities of other civilizations
I guess we'll just have to disagree on our standards for excellence. I try to be the best person possible, not less of shitstain than the crackhead down the street. Russia has done awful things; so has America. Period. 10 murders > 1 murder. Both still murderers.
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atrocities are part of human nature, regardless of government
No doubt. Yet thanks to governments people are rewarded for such behavior and encouraged to do so. Just look at how public school propaganda has people defending such acts.






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Stingray
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yeah, its either that anger is clouding your understanding of a statement a third grader could digest, or your intelligence is at a second grade level

i gave you the benefit of the doubt

my mistake






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Roaad
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yeah, its either that anger is clouding your understanding of a statement a third grader could digest, or your intelligence is at a second grade level
Like I said before, I understood what you posted.

It was just fricking stupid.






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Interception
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those atrocities should only be compared to the atrocities of other civilizations. we're tame as shite


Yea, I think perspective was lost a long time ago in this thread






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Stingray
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It was just fricking stupid


But your fricking stupid






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Roaad
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your fricking stupid
my what?






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Stingray
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my what?


I understand this response.

A fricking stupid response.






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