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Would someone please explain the crimes Trump committed?

Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:46 am
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16098 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:46 am
He is in court in NY defending himself against allegedly falsifying financial records in order to commit a crime. So where is the crime?

He is being accused of trying to overthrow an election, and instigating Jan 6. Again, where is the crime?

Any assistance you may offer would be much appreciated.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7704 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:48 am to
It was her turn dammit. That’s about all I can think of.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422465 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:48 am to
quote:

He is in court in NY defending himself against allegedly falsifying financial records in order to commit a crime. So where is the crime?


Instead of paying his attorney (or women) directly with a set payment, he had his attorney make payments. Then the attorney sent invoices to Trump for random amounts as a retainer fee. This was all done to disguise the payments from the company to the women (for plausible deniability, presumably).

The wacky NY records law has an expansive view of fraudulent business records, and the allegation is that the obfuscations I posted above was fraud, per the statute.
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
13178 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:49 am to
He screwed Hillary out of her turn.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30246 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:49 am to
Threatening the Establishment.

I know you want more. But that is the case.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24390 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:53 am to
quote:

Instead of paying his attorney (or women) directly with a set payment, he had his attorney make payments. Then the attorney sent invoices to Trump for random amounts as a retainer fee. This was all done to disguise the payments from the company to the women (for plausible deniability, presumably).

The wacky NY records law has an expansive view of fraudulent business records, and the allegation is that the obfuscations I posted above was fraud, per the statute.


Cool. Maybe that is what happened. Now PROVE Trump knew where the money was going.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14488 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:54 am to
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Cool. Maybe that is what happened


Sounds like Pecker described it differently.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23183 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:54 am to
quote:

The wacky NY records law has an expansive view of fraudulent business records, and the allegation is that the obfuscations I posted above was fraud, per the statute.


Does ny law not require an injured party? Is the claim he didn't pay proper taxes?

What would have been the pretext for the investigation that would have uncovered the business records errors.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59880 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:55 am to
quote:

Threatening the Establishment.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124418 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:55 am to
SFP will be here shortly to explain to us

He is so smart
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422465 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:55 am to
quote:

. Now PROVE Trump knew where the money was going.

We haven't seen all the evidence, but we all expect parties involved to testify to this. There will likely be documentation around this scheme, too.

Trump worked directly with Cohen, allegedly on this, so while there will be credibility disputes, Cohen can testify directly about this.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19479 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:56 am to
Such things are in ideological DNA of communists.

Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21895 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:56 am to
quote:

Now PROVE Trump knew where the money was going.


He's on tape asking about it, and multiple witnesses have/will testify that he knew what it was about. Pecker already did this week.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422465 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:57 am to
quote:

Does ny law not require an injured party?

Not for their statute. It's a regulation on businesses.

It's the same thing as the other trial. Same statute.

quote:

Is the claim he didn't pay proper taxes?

No. It's fraud-based.

quote:

What would have been the pretext for the investigation that would have uncovered the business records errors.

The lawyer who handled it being prosecuted for related crimes, for starters
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48314 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:58 am to
quote:

Instead of paying his attorney (or women) directly with a set payment, he had his attorney make payments. Then the attorney sent invoices to Trump for random amounts as a retainer fee. This was all done to disguise the payments from the company to the women (for plausible deniability, presumably).


Didn’t Cohen surreptitiously record Trump regarding these payments and Trump said “make sure everything is on the up and up?” Where is the mens rea?
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24390 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:59 am to
quote:

We haven't seen all the evidence, but we all expect parties involved to testify to this. There will likely be documentation around this scheme, too.

Trump worked directly with Cohen, allegedly on this, so while there will be credibility disputes, Cohen can testify directly about this.


There better be some rock-solid evidence. Otherwise, all the other shite is just hearsay. They better have something from Trump directly ordering the payments. If there is anything less than that this is a complete waste of time.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48314 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:59 am to
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He's on tape asking about it


He’s on tape telling cohen “do it all on the up and up”.
This post was edited on 4/26/24 at 11:01 am
Posted by MemphisGuy
Member since Nov 2023
3186 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:00 am to
quote:

Does ny law not require an injured party?


Yes... the ole "You defrauded someone who themselves says they weren't defrauded by you".
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
20382 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:01 am to
quote:

Would someone please explain the crimes Trump committed?


Posted by SoggyBottomBaw
Live Free Or Die
Member since Nov 2022
434 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:01 am to
Justice Barrett pretty much destroyed any basis for states to ever bring cases like this against Executives and Dreebun conceded this.

The DOJ lost yesterday, big time...
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