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It's official: The Golden Band from Tigerland to Seattle!!
Posted on 7/20/09 at 10:08 am
Posted on 7/20/09 at 10:08 am
I posted this in the other thread, but that thread is so long it's buried way down.
and my response...
Other threads discussing this...
LINK
LINK
LINK
Additional resources:
Official 2008 LSU Athletic Department Financials: Feb 2009 ($4 million surplus, See page 15)
LSU: $84 Million in Revenues
LSU's spending habits, per Skip Bertman
LSU's revenue sources, per Skip Bertman
The Reveille: LSU Athletics recession-proof?
$7 million for new video boards campus-wide
Alleva: LSU Athletics financially strong
Alleva committed to improving facilities for minor sports
Alleva: LSU sets record for home attendance (all sports)
LSU AD and TAF Audits
quote:
Mr. XXXXX,
Thank you for writing. The LSU Athletic Department greatly values the band and its contributions to LSU. In fact, the Athletic Department provides more financial support to its band than any other school in the Southeastern Conference, spending over $900,000 annually in travel, salaries and equipment for the Tiger Band. And the Athletic Department has also committed $4.5 million to the construction of a new band hall, making LSU Athletics the single largest contributor to that project.
So there is no doubting our continued commitment to the LSU band. However, these are trying financial times and there are cost-cutting measures being taken all over the LSU campus. The travel for the band just happens to be one of the more high profile cost-saving areas. Difficult decisions have to be made in difficult times, and LSU is indeed going through some very difficult financial times right now. As state budget cuts have slashed higher education budgets all over Louisiana, the athletic department has been called upon to provide more financial assistance to our University this year than ever before. So we have had to take a hard look at every dollar we spend.
The Tiger Band will continue to be a very big part of LSU Football, but during the 2009 season a pep band will not travel to our game at the University of Washington and the full band will not travel to any regular season road game, resulting in a savings of $125,000 to $150,000 this year.
Thank you for your support of the Tigers,
Herb Vincent
Sr. Associate Athletic Director
LSU
and my response...
quote:
RE: No Band for Washington/ One Road SEC Game?þ
From:
Sent: Mon 7/20/09 10:36 AM
To: vincent@lsu.edu; football@lsu.edu; vausbe1@lsu.edu; athletics@lsu.edu; alleva@lsu.edu; mvm@lsu.edu
Cc: moorhous@lsu.edu; wickes@lsu.edu; rking3@lsu.edu; lem042@lsu.edu
Mr. Vincent,
Reasonable enough, although I highly object to this particular budget cut when in November 2008 you just spent over $7 million on LED video boards for many of our venues, including the natatorium and tennis courts. That said, it is what it is and I see both sides of the issue, but now we have to fix the problem. Thus ...
How do we - as fans - go about paying to get a pep band to Seattle and the full band to either Tuscaloosa or Oxford or Starkville? We are certianly willing to create a website accepting donations, and from our calculations it is estimated that it would cost about $50,000 to send a 50-member pep band to Seattle, and certainly much less than that to bus the full band to Alabama, Ole Miss, or Mississippi State and back to Baton Rouge immediately following the game.
If you guys won't budget this in as many fans including myself believe you should have done initially when you scheduled this game in Washington, we as fans will do everything within our power to pay for this. We may or may not be successful, but at least we will give it our best shot.
One thing that I think you guys could do to help is to send out an email to all LSU fans that have bought tickets through LSU for the Washington game. I don't know how you want to word it, but simply let them know about the situation and that we are trying to get donations for a pep band to Washington. I think this is a very logical solution. If we get 10,000 fans giving $5 each, that should just about cover the expenses to send a pep band to Washington. Many fans I have interacted with are willing to donate more than that, up to $100. If we had only 500 people giving $100, that would cover it as well.
Let's say we bring a 50-person pep band:
Flight $500 x 50 = $25,000
15 Hotel Rooms for 2 nights ... $240 (120/nt) x 15 = $3600
Bus transportation for the weekend = $5000
Food ($15/meal for 9 meals for 50) = $6750
Contingency: $5000
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TOTAL: $45,350
Thanks for all your help in this matter. Hopefully we can find a way - working together - to get the pep band to Washington and the full band to one SEC road game in 2009. And although this issue does upset me as an LSU fan, I truly do appreciate you taking the time to respond to my email. I understand your job is not an easy one and that all of you work very hard for LSU.
Thanks,
Other threads discussing this...
LINK
LINK
LINK
Additional resources:
Official 2008 LSU Athletic Department Financials: Feb 2009 ($4 million surplus, See page 15)
LSU: $84 Million in Revenues
LSU's spending habits, per Skip Bertman
LSU's revenue sources, per Skip Bertman
The Reveille: LSU Athletics recession-proof?
$7 million for new video boards campus-wide
Alleva: LSU Athletics financially strong
Alleva committed to improving facilities for minor sports
Alleva: LSU sets record for home attendance (all sports)
LSU AD and TAF Audits
This post was edited on 7/21/09 at 11:04 am
Posted on 7/20/09 at 10:11 am to JPLSU1981
herb should take a fricking pay cut
Posted on 7/20/09 at 10:11 am to mylsuhat
Sorry, I love the band but with the money crunch this is the right decision.
Posted on 7/20/09 at 10:11 am to JPLSU1981
So who will play when we score countless TD's that day
Posted on 7/20/09 at 10:12 am to BraveTiger225
quote:
Sorry, I love the band but with the money crunch this is the right decision...
I certainly see that side of the issue, but it's just hard for me to understand why the band gets cut in this instance when other things - that at least to me and most LSU fans are not as important - don't get cut.
Check out these links...
Official 2008 LSU Athletic Department Financials: Feb 2009 ($4 million surplus, See page 15)
LSU: $84 Million in Revenues
LSU's spending habits, per Skip Bertman
LSU's revenue sources, per Skip Bertman
The Reveille: LSU Athletics recession-proof?
$7 million for new video boards campus-wide
Alleva: LSU Athletics financially strong
Alleva committed to improving facilities for minor sports
Alleva: LSU sets record for home attendance (all sports)
LSU AD and TAF Audits
This post was edited on 7/20/09 at 10:14 am
Posted on 7/20/09 at 10:13 am to JPLSU1981
Can we pipe in music on the road?
Posted on 7/20/09 at 10:19 am to JPLSU1981
quote:
when other things - that at least to me and most LSU fans are not as important - don't get cut.
What other things? What programs would you cut and why?
A few fans on a message board does not equal most LSU fans.
Posted on 7/20/09 at 10:20 am to JustSmokin
quote:
A few fans on a message board does not equal most LSU fans.
I'm pretty sure most would prefer the full band at an SEC game over new LED video boards for the tennis courts and natatorium.
Regardless, I agree that budget cuts in this environment are reasonable. IMO, however, this is not something that needs to be cut.
This post was edited on 7/20/09 at 10:23 am
Posted on 7/20/09 at 10:20 am to JustSmokin
This sounds like a pretty reasonable thing to cut.
Posted on 7/20/09 at 10:20 am to JustSmokin
Posted on 7/20/09 at 10:23 am to CHIPPERJONES
quote:
herb should take a fricking pay cut
He like every other LSU employee I think is taking one
Posted on 7/20/09 at 10:25 am to nycajun
Ok, it's official: I'm bringing my old school boombox with the LSU band CD in it! Absolutely necessary for:
A. First downs
B. Touchdowns
C. Defensive Stops on 3rd down
Who's with me!?!?!?
A. First downs
B. Touchdowns
C. Defensive Stops on 3rd down
Who's with me!?!?!?
Posted on 7/20/09 at 10:26 am to nycajun
It's a fricking band. Get over it.
Posted on 7/20/09 at 10:27 am to JustSmokin
quote:
It's a fricking band. Get over it.
It's just f*cking football. Why not trash the whole thing?
Posted on 7/20/09 at 10:28 am to JPLSU1981
They should just cut the band altogether. It's not like they can't just play the music piped in. They can turn around and sell those seats plus there won't be any more expenditures on the band. Imagine the savings to the LSU Athletic Department. Then they can charge a fee for people that want to form a tunnel for the football team to run through.
We should become just like Tulane back in the 70's-90's.
We should become just like Tulane back in the 70's-90's.
Posted on 7/20/09 at 10:30 am to los angeles tiger
quote:
They should just cut the band altogether. It's not like they can't just play the music piped in. They can turn around and sell those seats plus there won't be any more expenditures on the band. Imagine the savings to the LSU Athletic Department. Then they can charge a fee for people that want to form a tunnel for the football team to run through.
We should become just like Tulane back in the 70's-90's.
cue the lurking LSU band members/alumni?
Posted on 7/20/09 at 10:30 am to JPLSU1981
quote:
JPLSU1981
Email Herb/Linda or whoever would come up with the budget to get 50 or so to Seattle and see if they'd run an estimate. If its around 50k I think the money could be raised.
ETA: Hell even if its 15-20 of them...something to just lead the cheers...
This post was edited on 7/20/09 at 10:33 am
Posted on 7/20/09 at 10:33 am to Golfer
add $5 per ticket to the SEC road game. I'm paying a lot of money to go to these road games and having the full band (auburn last year) makes for a completely different experience
Posted on 7/20/09 at 10:37 am to TigerBait1127
You're also paying a lot of money to sit through games against Ulala, LaTech and Tulane in Tiger Stadium. I am pissed off about this.
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