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re: Lumber prices anyone building new Const
Posted by chief2791 on 9/4/20 at 10:00 am to jkcooper92
I hope that gentleman is correct. I bought a load of 2x4 this morning, was approx. $200 per board ft higher than what I bought the last one at 2 weeks ago, but I had to have it. Broker said they are seeing signs of it easing. But again, there will have to be unsold lumber sitting on the yard at the mills for them to back off prices.
There's a pretty significant difference in pre-fab and stick framing when you're talking about strictly material cost. Where the cost savings comes in on pre-fab is labor, it's going to get done much quicker. I recently did a job for one of my contractors approximately 3500 s/f with bonus room on second floor, shed porches on both sides all incorporated in the truss, overall truss length 65'. He set the trusses and had most of the roof sheeted in a day. He said to field frame it would have taken him roughly a week. Significant labor and time savings.
The truss industry has done several studies over the years pre-fab vs field frame. I attached a link that you can look at if it's any interest.
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There's a pretty significant difference in pre-fab and stick framing when you're talking about strictly material cost. Where the cost savings comes in on pre-fab is labor, it's going to get done much quicker. I recently did a job for one of my contractors approximately 3500 s/f with bonus room on second floor, shed porches on both sides all incorporated in the truss, overall truss length 65'. He set the trusses and had most of the roof sheeted in a day. He said to field frame it would have taken him roughly a week. Significant labor and time savings.
The truss industry has done several studies over the years pre-fab vs field frame. I attached a link that you can look at if it's any interest.
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re: Lumber prices anyone building new Const
Posted by chief2791 on 9/3/20 at 2:22 pm to jkcooper92
Rarely post but mostly lurk. I'm in the truss industry. Lumber is still rising. My lumber prices have nearly tripled, and that's if you can even find it to buy. When I find a load, I have to buy it no matter the cost, it will be gone within hours, someone else will snatch it up. It makes quoting extremely difficult when you don't know what you'll be paying for materials.
Here's how we got here. When Covid happened, mills either shut down completely or went to 50%. At the same time people that were sitting at home started building decks, remodeling, etc.. Contractors and suppliers like me never slowed down, we were still using as much lumber as we ever were. At the same time, when restrictions were lifted and mills started calling their workers back, they were now making more sitting at home than working. Until they get the mills staffed at 100%, the shortage will continue. Prices will not drop until there is unsold lumber sitting on the yard at the mills. There's no shortage of logs to process, there's a shortage of manpower to process them.
It's a scary time all the way around, people that are in the middle of a build, contractors, and suppliers like me. One of my customers at a lumber yard was quoting materials to a contractor about a week ago. The contractor asked him how long the quote is good for. He told him it's good until we hang up the phone.
Here's how we got here. When Covid happened, mills either shut down completely or went to 50%. At the same time people that were sitting at home started building decks, remodeling, etc.. Contractors and suppliers like me never slowed down, we were still using as much lumber as we ever were. At the same time, when restrictions were lifted and mills started calling their workers back, they were now making more sitting at home than working. Until they get the mills staffed at 100%, the shortage will continue. Prices will not drop until there is unsold lumber sitting on the yard at the mills. There's no shortage of logs to process, there's a shortage of manpower to process them.
It's a scary time all the way around, people that are in the middle of a build, contractors, and suppliers like me. One of my customers at a lumber yard was quoting materials to a contractor about a week ago. The contractor asked him how long the quote is good for. He told him it's good until we hang up the phone.
Another place that I think you may find interesting that shouldn't be too far out of your driving range from Greenville and certainly not from Anderson/Lake Hartwell is Grits and Groceries. It is in the middle of nowhere, south of Anderson at the intersecton of Hwys 185 and 284..keep driving, you'll get there. The owners are both from New Orleans and lots of their heritage and influence comes through in their cooking. It's great food and people drive quite a ways to eat there. Some of you guys may even be familiar with them and the restaurants they've worked at in NO. You will just need to look at the hours on their website to figure out what meal you should go for because the hours do vary depending on the day. Again, it's great food, and should take you no more than an hour from Greenville, much less from Anderson/Lake Hartwell. Definitely a DDD type place.
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Also, I don't know how well you know Casey Ashley, but I'm sure he will be one of the Bassmaster participants. He's a "local" and a good kid. He lives about 3 miles from our place of business. I'm sure he could give you some good recommendations as well.
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Also, I don't know how well you know Casey Ashley, but I'm sure he will be one of the Bassmaster participants. He's a "local" and a good kid. He lives about 3 miles from our place of business. I'm sure he could give you some good recommendations as well.
As Jerome said, the best barbeque is in the lower part of the state. If I'm eating barbeque at home in the upstate, it's coming off of my smoker. They just do it better in the lowcountry and in NC..personal opinion.
Smoke On The Water - Downtown Greenville
Never had a bad meal there, lunch or dinner. Great for either lunch or dinner.
Sticky Fingers - also Downtown
Although it is a regional chain, they have the best wings that I've eaten that haven't came from my grill.
Although it's the opposite directon from Greenville to Lake Hartwell, The Beacon in Spartanburg (approx 30 min drive from Gvl) is a DDD alum. It can be a bit greasy, but grease is good every now and then. Whatever you order, whether it be a burger or fried chicken, order your plate A-plenty, which is with fries and onion rings. I eat there for lunch every time that I'm in close proximity.
Never had a bad meal there, lunch or dinner. Great for either lunch or dinner.
Sticky Fingers - also Downtown
Although it is a regional chain, they have the best wings that I've eaten that haven't came from my grill.
Although it's the opposite directon from Greenville to Lake Hartwell, The Beacon in Spartanburg (approx 30 min drive from Gvl) is a DDD alum. It can be a bit greasy, but grease is good every now and then. Whatever you order, whether it be a burger or fried chicken, order your plate A-plenty, which is with fries and onion rings. I eat there for lunch every time that I'm in close proximity.
Marinate with your marinade of choice. Throw on smoker indirect heat for 1.5 hours. Reverse sear 5 minutes each side. Let rest in aluminum foil for 1 hour. Slice thin against grain. Enjoy! You're welcome! :cheers:
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