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re: SEC network

Posted by F1230 on 3/13/14 at 8:20 pm
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Especially since AT&T Uverse is going to be the primary carrier of SEC Network and they already have a rather large working relationship with DirectTV



No carrier will be the "primary carrier" of the SEC Network. ESPN, like the other 1,000+ broadcasters in the US, will sign any provider to a distribution deal....including DirecTV.

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As long as LSU produces the video for baseball games like they do now, they will be available through the SEC Network's online platform.


Does anyone know if we can buy this feature only. Looks like DirectTV is going to whiff on the SEC Network.


No. Your provider must have distribution of the SEC Network in order for you to view digital content (WatchESPN). The SEC Network is packaging these two features together. For example: Lets say your local cable company is Time Warner and you live within the 11 state SEC footprint. If Time Warner and ESPN are able to negotiate a distribution agreement, Time Warner MUST 1) place the SEC Network within their expanded basic cable lineup (typically channel 2-70) and 2) MUST authenticate the WatchESPN app. If you live outside the 11 state SEC footprint, your cable company has the option of placing the station within a tiered package (i.e. sports bundle) but will also be required to authenticate WatchESPN.

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As long as LSU produces the video for baseball games like they do now, they will be available through the SEC Network's online platform


Correct. All schools in the SEC are upgrading their production facilities and will basically become production studios for the SEC Network. For example: a production crew will be at Alex Box for all games (as they currently are) when the SEC Network launches. That game may be distributed on the Sec Network or digitally on WatchESPN (not necessarily live).

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Edit: So once the SEC Network starts, GZ is no more?


GZ and Tiger Vision will be a thing of the past when the SEC Network launches.
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CBS will still have the Saturday 2:30 games, won't they?


CBS will have the exact same TV package that they've always had with one exception: the 2:30CST time slot is no longer exclusive to CBS.

Moving forward, the SECN can have an SEC game kick at the same time as CBS (2:30p CST). Previously, ESPN could not have a game running during the same time slot.
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Brent Musberger and Jesse Palmer lead announcers on SEC network--Really?quote:The SEC Network has yet to sign a single cable television service provider to a distribution deal. Well this is completely wrong. ATT Uverse: quote:AT&T U-verse has signed a deal to distribute the SEC Network. And Dish Network for Satellie viewers. Who cares about facts though.


ATT uverse and Dish are not cable television providers. One is satellite and the other is what's called "triple play."

re: SEC stadium size for 2014

Posted by F1230 on 3/12/14 at 1:24 pm
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Does anyone think the SEC Network will hurt attendance ? Every game will now be televised in HD and game will have later and later start times in the future. Alone with the normal early game.


Absolutely not.

For the past five years every single home game has been broadcasted on CBS or the ESPN family of networks with the exception of the annual Tiger Vision game.

So your question might as well read "will moving the Tiger Vision game to the SEC Network hurt attendance?"


ESPN could have announced that Garrison Keillor and Casey Kasem are announcing the SECN games but for most of us it currently doesn't matter.

Why?

The SEC Network has yet to sign a single cable television service provider to a distribution deal.
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You really think ESPN is gonna do that and take the risk of losing out on adverstising revenue by not having big games on their flagship stations?


Advertising revenue is minuscule compared to subscriber fees. Subscriber fees is their bread and butter. Also, since ESPN has a family of networks and other products, they can easily switch ads to run on their other networks.
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My guess is that they will stream the service. Since its ESPN distrubting the service. However, even if they don't someone will illegally.


ESPN doesn't distribute any of their content, none. The cable and satellite companies distribute it. Your ISP (not cable/satellite company) must have an agreement in place with ESPN in order for you view content via ESPN3.
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SEC Network is currently exclusive to Dish and U-Verse.


No it's not. Any carrier can pick it up that enters into a distribution agreement with ESPN. Currently Dish and Uverse are the only two carriers that have agreements. NFL Sunday Ticket is different: directv has exclusivity which prevents any carrier from offering the service.
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I hear they are on the last year of that contract next year, at most it is the year after that. So they might lose it.


They have first right of refusal and a renegotiation window. The only way they will lose it is if DirecTV passes on renewing the contract.
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College football >>>>>> NFL


100% subjective...like saying Ford is better than Chevy. I'm looking for objective insight.
How much is the NFL Sunday Ticket Package?
I don't have it but know a lot of people chose directv over dish because of NFL Sunday ticket. Quality of tv? Games not in hd?
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What really sucks is my parents switched from DirectTv to Cox to get the Network. However Cox hasn't picked it up in Baton Rouge yet for some reason.


Nowhere for cox to put the sec network without dropping another network. Which one will they drop?
DirecTV pays around 1 billion annually for exclusive distribution rights of its NFL Sunday Ticket product.

Let's make this simple: in order to profit from the 1 billion annual investment DirecTV needs subscribers to 1) subscribe to DirecTV services and 2) buy its NFL Sunday Ticket product. Pretty easy.

Knowing this, how many NFL Sunday Ticket customers will cancel DirecTV if DirecTV doesn't pick up the new SEC Network? Is it safe to assume that the person canceling his/her carriers service, because the carrier doesn't offer the SECN, is an avid sports fan? I say yes. Is it safe to assume that the customer who pays for NFL Sunday Ticket is an avid sports fan? Again, I say yes. Is it safe to assume that many of these customers are one in the same? It's plausible.

The difference: NFL Sunday Ticket is exclusive content to DirecTV customers. SEC programming is still available on CBS, ESPN, ESPN2 and ESPNU
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DirecTV statement regarding SEC network. Sounds to me like SEC fans have got their full attention. I'm almost certain now that they will pick it up. I just hope Google Fiber follows suit.


When Dish dropped AMC in 2012 fans of Breaking Bad were in an outrage because if you had Dish you couldn't watch the show. What made it worse is they dropped AMC immediately before the start of the 2012 season premier. Less than 10,000 customers canceled. My point is there is risk involves when adding/dropping networks and clearly the sec network is no different.

The sec network has a lot more risks than any other network including it MUST be on the expanded basic cable lineup. So where are you going to put the new network? Which existing network are you going to kick off to make room for the new network? Additionally, carriers have to offer the SEC Network in HD and authenticate WarchESPN - all of this takes up a massive amount of bandwidth. A TON of bandwidth. Start slowing down your customers download times because so many more sports fans are streaming live games, well people tend to cancel services.
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They won't until enough people cancel, outweighing their subscriber gains. LOL if you think the SEC Network is a bigger deal than TWC. Also, they chose not to carry the Pac-12 Network. It's not far fetched to think they won't add it, considering they have Sunday Ticket. That is unless people exit in droves.


Chances are few customers will cancel because DirecTV has exclusive NFL Sunday Ticket distribution rights.

Other reasons why fewer people than you realize will cancel: 1) Carriers never lose substantial amounts of customers when a new sports network isn't added to the lineup. Examples include SportsNet LA, Pac12 Network, Comcast SportsNet Houston (none of which are carried by DirecTV) and YES (Yankees Network which isn't carried by Dish). SEC Network will be no different especially because it will cost so much.

2) Cost to customers will be a lot more than $1.30 (the reported amount ESPN is asking carriers to pay per subscriber within the 11 state sec footprint). You need to factor in the carrier's markup/profit and how much extra you'll pay for the digital distribution such as WatchESPN. Those games you watch on the WatchESPN app are not free, you're paying for them via your cable bill provided your carrier authenticates WatchESPN.

3) Most cable companies bundle their services. Let's say you have Cox, decide to cancel and become a Dish Network customer. Now you two bills (one for satelliteTV and one for home phone/internet) and since you no longer bundle all three products, you'll end up paying substantially more. Possibly $180 per year more.
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If we assume a direct correlation of population in SEC states/nonSEC states to cable subscribers(30% of the entire population of the country reside in SEC states now), that means we've already locked up about 6 million subscribers in the SEC footprint, and 14 million outside.


There are around 12.5 million satellite subscribers in the sec footprint. If you apply your assumption to directv subscribers that puts you close to 12 million alone.

Also, $1.30 does not include digital distribution rights (ie WatchESPN and ESPN3).
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They don't have contracts with consumers so they can bump the price a couple bucks with no problems.


Expect Dish to increase their monthly rate because they now authenticate WatchESPN. In order for a carrier to to carry the SEC Network, they must have a distribution agreement in place that allows it's customers access to WatchESPN.
the advocate article uploaded to the first post if this thread? Yes, I've read it.
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they don't even give the rant credit for this.


The entire concept (Tabasco sign with lights) was planned months ago. Sorry, "The Rant" definaty didn't come up with this idea.