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They will expect FEMA to pay for their motel stay after forcing them to evacuate to higher ground.

and remember that with hurricane season coming don't buy that new generator until a hurricane is heading our way and keep that receipt in a safe place.
We have heard great interpretation of La. law.
That should let a lot of folks sleep a little easier when it comes to protecting their families. At least cause some to think out the scenarios that would be acceptable and those that would not be. Maybe that knowledge will take a little heat out of a confrontation that isn't up to the standard for justifiable homicide.

On the other hand, I bet this thread (read the title and OP) got some so fired up they got their ammo out and started counting. Hope no bubba died cleaning his gun. I wonder how much gas people in the flooded areas are leaving behind in their tractors? shhh
The premise of "stand your ground" and "meeting force with force" will have to be self evident.
Hopefully everyone involved will act honestly and not try not distort the facts. (am I paranoid?)

"the court shall award" comes out of whose pocket?

What about any legal fees up front even if it doesn't go to court? If you talk to your lawyer first, is he on a fixed retainer? I haven't picked a criminal defense lawyer yet, should I?

The revisions to La law gives the righteous citizen a better chance of a just outcome in a just shooting. A move in the right direction for sure.

If you are properly prepared, keep your wits about you, do only what you have practiced, don't accidentally shoot through the walls or across the street (is this a rural or city example) or get shot by the responding police (has happened).
nail gun? cool, nail the punk to the door and call 911 :dude:
@ dbbuilder79
I know we are only debating this while we wait for more news on the flood :lol:

If anyone is bored here is an interesting site to surf. They even have a review on "The Judge"

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I am not a lawyer. I am not a LEO. I am familiar with firearms and have had formal training in the past. As much as I would like to believe that the DA, law enforcement, Judge and jury would function as advertised, I would not be comfortable putting my finances and freedom on the line for possessions. The safely of my family, any day of the week, but not material items.

The rural south is a scary place to exercise your rights. Imagine plugging some local politician's drunk ash unemployed 2nd cousin in law. How about a relative of the investigating officer? How about your neighbors? "was gonna happen sooner or later, bubba was just itchin to shoot someone stealing gas from his tractor".
and, I sure wouldn't go posting rash ideas on a forum.
Those thinking of getting a home protection weapon think this out at length. I'm in favor of it. But get the training, not just how to shoot straight but how to think straight. Practice both shooting and even "what if" drills so you don't have to read the manual at the last minute. If you own a gun, become an expert on how that gun operates. Be able to load a magazine in the dark. Why do you need to be looking at the mag anyway?

This started out discussing the legality of deadly force and drifted around to how to get away with it. I don't trust our legal system with my life and relying on "a jury of my peers" would scare the life out of me anyway. But when necessary I will stand up to protect my family from harm.


Criminal charges or civil suit, or legal fees aside, coming home and finding someone running down the drive with my 50 inch is not worth the family seeing me shoot someone. Why would I put them through that? I'm getting old. Maybe my testosterone level isn't what it used to be.

Break in while we are home might be a different story. I'm in position between the bad guy and my loved ones for one purpose.

I hope no one stays behind to protect their property and drowns. If they do, I hope they sent the women, children, and old people to higher ground.
Judge,
Home invasion drills, fire drills, perimeter watches ( :lol: ).

By the way, these practice drills have paid off more than once.

If you think you need a home protection weapon then you need a plan. One that can be put into motion without someone saying "but I'll loss the points I made in this game". King of the castle says "upstairs" everyone moves.
You shoot to eliminate the immediate threat then stop shooting. Three shots in the chest and three in the back while the perp is running away will come down to the coroner's determination of which killed the perp. Unless the coroner is your uncle, you could be in deep shiet.

If you keep firearms for hunting, learn about hunting safety. If you keep firearms for home protection, learn about home protection. That includes instructing family members on emergency plans. Just because your dad gave you your first gun when you were 5 does not indicate knowledge of firearm safety.

At home when I grab a weapon all I have to do is say "upstairs". No questions asked, everyone goes upstairs, wife locks the bedroom door and arms herself.

re: MSNBC stirs the pot.

Posted by Rocketvapor on 5/16/11 at 7:05 pm to
I think you would have a problem getting flood insurance after the 3rd occurrence. They would probably require you to put your trailer up on pilings.
Still wouldn't be cheap I bet.
If the Morganza was not opened would the levees not has an equal chance of failing on the west side of the MR? What areas of the basin would flood if the river came in from that direction?
Would the flow down the AR and the flow from a MR west levee failure flood the entire area?

Are there any poor people in that area that the govment is secretly trying to protect?

re: How do they measure the flow?

Posted by Rocketvapor on 5/16/11 at 5:27 pm to
Is this going to be on the test?

re: Two more bays to open today

Posted by Rocketvapor on 5/16/11 at 1:58 pm to
Yup, at least one at about noon.
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re: so where is the water?

Posted by Rocketvapor on 5/16/11 at 1:56 pm to
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The water has moved just south of the railroad truss that runs through the Morganza spillway as of mid morning. That puts it probably 5 miles north of US 190.


This gage seems to suggest that about 2 feet of Morgaza water has made it to Hwy 190.
LINK

and this gage indicates another gate opened about noon.
LINK

re: Hwy 190 Information

Posted by Rocketvapor on 5/16/11 at 8:06 am to
LINK

Looks like Morganza water made it to 190 last night. Did anyone see a little yellow rubber ducky go under the bridge?

re: How do they measure the flow?

Posted by Rocketvapor on 5/16/11 at 12:04 am to
Scottie just won't admit it but they do use a rubber ducky :rotflmao:
If you can't find really good info that the area will NOT flood I would think about getting them out. Take them on a "drive" to see what's going on. Maybe that will convince them to visit for a few days.

Search for positive or negative news but don't wait forever to decide.
I don't go around in doves.

I'm a LONE Dumbass :pimp:

but I do agree on the low margins downstream and it won't take much to impact the economy in our area because of this event. Money is damned up river.
Some posted record profits 1st quarter 2011.
:spank:

Maybe they are storing the difference in upstream and downstream dollars in backwater storage.


re: How do they measure the flow?

Posted by Rocketvapor on 5/15/11 at 11:16 am to
The Project flood shows 1.5 million cfs down the basin. I believe this is the max design of the controls. The fuse plug levee isn't expected to flow (250,000 cfs), Morganza at 25% (150,000 csf) and the ORCS at 620,000 EDIT: and about 35,000 cfs from the Red River would give about 800,000 cfs total down the AR and basin.

Hope opening of additional bays is delayed to reduce basin flow rates.