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re: Handball practically in the goal

Posted by plaxico on 7/3/10 at 1:00 am to
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Because the bottom line of what happened is a player committed an ejection offense that changed a 100% SURE GAME WINNING GOAL into something that is not a sure thing


but, there are so many different situations that could occur that could call for that rule to be employed. like i've said in this thread, it's one of those "where do you draw the line" calls.

re: Handball practically in the goal

Posted by plaxico on 7/3/10 at 12:58 am to
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Or at least no more arbitrary than on or offside calls.


except, here, you don't absolutely grant the other team a goal.

re: Handball practically in the goal

Posted by plaxico on 7/3/10 at 12:52 am to
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One thing I think many of us are missing in this controversy is the split second decision Suarez made on the play.


yeah, but i think that some of that comes from the "oh, shite!" moment that comes from a last gasp defending effort. i don't even think that it was malicious, "i'm going to cheat ghana out of a world cup with my hands." i think it was more, "can't. let. ghana. score."

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What made this play so remarkable is that no one had ever done this before in this situation.


exactly. you could be tim howard hanging out on your goal line with a guy blasting shots from the six and you'd have a hard time saving it. there was nothing about that "foul" that was anything short of incredible, especially after he had just cleared the ball off of the line as a striker. when he did it, he just struck me as a guy with a whole lot of fricking balls. i think that both of his reactions afterward said a lot.
yeah, but i think that in borderline decisions, it could play its role. maybe something looked dangerous, but the referee wasn't sure. i could see it playing its role there, but i think for the most part, referees are aware of that shite, maybe too aware.
depends upon how violent or dangerous the situation is.

two footed challenge and agonized face? red card

bullshite, pedestrian foul? not much

re: Handball practically in the goal

Posted by plaxico on 7/2/10 at 10:09 pm to
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But the game's rules are fricked and the powers are so attached to tradition that they refuse to respond to the issues that are oddly enough, brought about by the increasing talent of the players.


it's a pretty infuriating game to follow on any level, but it's especially infuriating on the international level because you have to, ideally, wait four years to feel vindicated. imo, suarez on ghana is our vindication for that bullshite penalty kick four years ago.

as a fan, i spend most of my time pissed off at something that's going on, and fifa certainly doesn't help. maybe i like being angry at stupid shite. i don't know, but that's why i generally resist change in the game (vindication and anger. bigger emotional swings).
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IDK, I don't think it'd be that hard. It'd come down to three questions.


i think it could work if it was that specific, but i don't really see the point. what separates a guy with his foot on the goal line from any other handball in the vicinity of the goal line? i agree with the underlying principle behind it, but even then, unless we clone pierluigi collina 200 times, i don't expect referees to employ the rule properly.
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It wouldn't be that hard to determine


the rule would have to be VERY specific.

i'm just not comfortable with a referee having the ability to directly affect the scoreline by penalizing the offending team.

with 360 degree, high def camera coverage for replays, sure, but not right now in my opinion.

re: Handball practically in the goal

Posted by plaxico on 7/2/10 at 9:22 pm to
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Of course its part of the game but I don't know why that's a good defense for it whether you agree with the rule or no


i think it's one of those "where do you draw the line?" problems. where the line is positioned just happened to frick ghana in the arse tonight.
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wtf


i would assume that he was talking about our "world champions" in other sports, not your comment
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That being said, there should be a clause in the rulebook that allows a ref to award a goal if a handball occurs on the goalline on a ball that would otherwise be heading into the net.


that's too arbitrary. there would be some terrible fricking decisions (see: usa facehand). there's too much going on in front of goal to figure out everything that would factor into that rule while play is going on.
by definition, it's not really called a kit. a kit would be everything that you'd use to play. which makes sense i think. i don't use it, though.

re: Silly hypothetical.......

Posted by plaxico on 7/1/10 at 7:55 pm to
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These games are always meaningless and prove nothing.


yeah, i think everyone has it figured out now. it was really bad back around the start of the world series of soccer.

re: MLS TOTW: Dynamo @ Toronto

Posted by plaxico on 7/1/10 at 7:47 pm to
rapist touch findley.

now, if we only had gam, ching, davies, and rapist touch findley, i'd start davies and ching.

re: MLS TOTW: Dynamo @ Toronto

Posted by plaxico on 7/1/10 at 7:41 pm to
would've been mls gotw

re: MLS TOTW: Dynamo @ Toronto

Posted by plaxico on 7/1/10 at 7:27 pm to
holy frick. i just tuned in to someone getting frankenstein choked

re: Silly hypothetical.......

Posted by plaxico on 7/1/10 at 5:34 pm to
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Do these teams like AC Milan ever play more than a couple of their normal starters in these type games though?


as the season draws closer, the teams that they put out are pretty god damned good.

mls teams are competitive with them because it's hot, meaningless, and they're in pre-season form with pre-season fitness.
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Haha Arsenal FC in california has no relation to the actual Arsenal in the premier league. Teams in the US do that with some youth teams just because they either respect the club or think its cool to be named that.


that was the case, but recently, many teams have been forming legitimate partnerships with clubs in europe:

e.g. co rush aj auxerre
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my friend plays in the national academy league and he played against arsenal over the weekend in their "playoffs." his team was ranked like 9th in the nation and got ran by arsenal 4-1.


that's arsenal fc out of california. they've been around for a while. i'm not even quite sure that they have any major affiliation with arsenal fc.

this is "chelsea"