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In B.R. -- it's all about da neighborhood.
If you're want to save money, think about some of the mature/older burbs.
Sherwood Forest and Broadmoor. If ya look, you might could find something around $160K to $180K or so. You'll be happy in either one.
Shenandoah would have a little bit longer drive. Of course prices will vary per the quality of the older home.
Try craigslist. Click on the ones with photos.
Use the search function per the 'hood tips above.
If you're want to save money, think about some of the mature/older burbs.
Sherwood Forest and Broadmoor. If ya look, you might could find something around $160K to $180K or so. You'll be happy in either one.
Shenandoah would have a little bit longer drive. Of course prices will vary per the quality of the older home.
Try craigslist. Click on the ones with photos.
Use the search function per the 'hood tips above.
There's a wild conspiracy theory that cheerleader/frat/silver-spoon shrub and 41 are actually one and the same, being as they're both from the same UFO pod. GWB = GHWB = Hoover
JerseyTiger:
Solid call. Like a big city getting snowed in, not knowing when the next Pineapple Express will shift the pattern.
What do you think of UBS and their financial advisors?
Solid call. Like a big city getting snowed in, not knowing when the next Pineapple Express will shift the pattern.
What do you think of UBS and their financial advisors?
re: Call the Bottom
Posted by ElmGrove on 1/25/09 at 6:51 pm to LoyalTiger211
Let's do the math.
George Herbert Walker Bush = Herbert Hoover
Check
1929 crash = 2008 crash
Check
Then, per Wikipedia:
"The market recovered for several months from that point, with the Dow reaching a secondary peak (i.e., dead cat bounce) at 294.0 in April 1930. The market embarked on a steady slide in April 1931 that did not end until 1932 when the Dow closed at 41.22 on July 8, concluding a shattering 89% decline from the peak. This was the lowest the stock market had been since the 19th century."
So, it's possible that we won't see a true bottom until . . .
Sometime in 2011.
Hey, keep calling the bottom. Warren Buffett doesn't waste his time with such childishness.
George Herbert Walker Bush = Herbert Hoover
Check
1929 crash = 2008 crash
Check
Then, per Wikipedia:
"The market recovered for several months from that point, with the Dow reaching a secondary peak (i.e., dead cat bounce) at 294.0 in April 1930. The market embarked on a steady slide in April 1931 that did not end until 1932 when the Dow closed at 41.22 on July 8, concluding a shattering 89% decline from the peak. This was the lowest the stock market had been since the 19th century."
So, it's possible that we won't see a true bottom until . . .
Sometime in 2011.
Hey, keep calling the bottom. Warren Buffett doesn't waste his time with such childishness.
clamdip:
And then what happened?
Was there endless prosperity for the next 2 decades?
And then what happened?
Was there endless prosperity for the next 2 decades?
Houston, we have a Dow Jones problem
Posted by ElmGrove on 11/19/08 at 4:09 pm
Yikes!
All bets are off. Gotta rethink my thinking.
With this new technical downside, I see something I don't wanna see. Uh-oh.
We're in serious doo-doo now.
All bets are off. Gotta rethink my thinking.
With this new technical downside, I see something I don't wanna see. Uh-oh.
We're in serious doo-doo now.
re: How low does oil go?
Posted by ElmGrove on 11/17/08 at 1:47 am to LSUtoOmaha
Omaha, that's a tribal name.
And, of course, you're exactly correct. A smart investor doesn't allow the manipulated spin to bog down his/her thinking.
Hey, it's about making money, not about ideological punch outs.
And a truly smart investor studies history.
So, if the above thesis is correct, then historically, has the Dow faired better under Democratic administrations or under Repub control of the White House?
People need to open their eyes and question their assumptions.
Hey, if someone wants to lose their gambling money via making bets/picks based upon wrong-minded political thinking, then that's fine. A market needs more losers than winners so the winners can feed off of the poorly invested money of the losers.
And, of course, you're exactly correct. A smart investor doesn't allow the manipulated spin to bog down his/her thinking.
Hey, it's about making money, not about ideological punch outs.
And a truly smart investor studies history.
So, if the above thesis is correct, then historically, has the Dow faired better under Democratic administrations or under Repub control of the White House?
People need to open their eyes and question their assumptions.
Hey, if someone wants to lose their gambling money via making bets/picks based upon wrong-minded political thinking, then that's fine. A market needs more losers than winners so the winners can feed off of the poorly invested money of the losers.
re: How low does oil go?
Posted by ElmGrove on 11/16/08 at 3:15 pm to LSUtoOmaha
Here's an intriguing question.
What will the price of NG (natural gas) go to if our oil shipments from the Middle East are cut off?
What will the price of NG (natural gas) go to if our oil shipments from the Middle East are cut off?
re: Chesapeake continues activity with Statoil deal
Posted by ElmGrove on 11/12/08 at 9:57 pm to TigerFanatic1
TigerFanatic!:
Years back, I had some friends that paid their dues offshore. And since you wanna work onshore and not off, I guess what I heard about Chevron won't help you much. But anyway, I spoke to someone a few days ago, and it seems as though a relative of his is working for Chevron offshore. I think he said 14/14. Anyway, I don't know what the guy did or at what capacity he worked, but the word was he was making very good money (of course) and loved his job but would be retiring soon. And in these exceptional bad financial times, a good job with good money is hard to come by. Any savvy financial advisor would seriously hit you on the side of your head if you even were thinking about quitting a job these days, unless you had another job in the bag.
Years back, I had some friends that paid their dues offshore. And since you wanna work onshore and not off, I guess what I heard about Chevron won't help you much. But anyway, I spoke to someone a few days ago, and it seems as though a relative of his is working for Chevron offshore. I think he said 14/14. Anyway, I don't know what the guy did or at what capacity he worked, but the word was he was making very good money (of course) and loved his job but would be retiring soon. And in these exceptional bad financial times, a good job with good money is hard to come by. Any savvy financial advisor would seriously hit you on the side of your head if you even were thinking about quitting a job these days, unless you had another job in the bag.
k.:
thanks
i find it interesting that CHK continues to sell off leases in much higher percentages in other s plays than in the Hay s
cash short in sum but their future profit margins appear to be higher & of higher potential in NW La -- so they're holding on to the easiest deals, to the highest of future profit returns, i.e., in the bayou s
thanks
i find it interesting that CHK continues to sell off leases in much higher percentages in other s plays than in the Hay s
cash short in sum but their future profit margins appear to be higher & of higher potential in NW La -- so they're holding on to the easiest deals, to the highest of future profit returns, i.e., in the bayou s
T.:
I'll rationalize.
Today won't be a bad blood bath, i.e., IMHO a good day these days is any day that the Dow doesn't drop over 200 on the downside.
For the 4th Q of 2008 -- that's a good day.
Note also that the present "buy" pattern is timed into the shorts in the last hour or so of trading.
Hence, if there is a program buy . . .
It might come near the market close. Watch for it.
(Then again, my "spin" could be completely wrong. In fact, I'm not really advocating buying anything, really. I just think shorting here is sort of risky, that's all.)
I'll rationalize.
Today won't be a bad blood bath, i.e., IMHO a good day these days is any day that the Dow doesn't drop over 200 on the downside.
For the 4th Q of 2008 -- that's a good day.
Note also that the present "buy" pattern is timed into the shorts in the last hour or so of trading.
Hence, if there is a program buy . . .
It might come near the market close. Watch for it.
(Then again, my "spin" could be completely wrong. In fact, I'm not really advocating buying anything, really. I just think shorting here is sort of risky, that's all.)
China Bailout s/be barry barry good @ stocks, today
Posted by ElmGrove on 11/10/08 at 8:09 am
That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
NG NYMEX future's zooming up @ 6:30 pm 11-9-08
Posted by ElmGrove on 11/9/08 at 6:30 pm
Wonder how high?
Will it stall?
Gotta watch that weather report, no?
Will it stall?
Gotta watch that weather report, no?
re: Even Warren Buffet is taking a hit
Posted by ElmGrove on 11/8/08 at 10:36 pm to go ta hell ole miss
A share of stock is nothing more than a piece of worthless paper (unless someone wants to buy it).
There is no value in the actual paper. The only value is derived from someone wanting to buy the share of stock. If no one wants to buy it and if everyone wants to sell their shares, then the market price drops.
In other words, the only frothy value per the market high of 14,000 was based upon impression, not reality. There is no "value" reality until someone sells their shares.
Therein, when an investor buys a share in say 2001 at 10 dollars and that same share is selling for 60 dollars in Oct. of 2007, that is only a perceived market value at that moment in time. There never was any money from anywhere added to the initial $10, turning it into $60. So when the market crashes and the $60 share returns to $10. It's a wash. Nothing disappears. $10 was only used to buy the share in the first place, i.e., it's all in the mind.
Now, there is the question of what happened to the money of those who bailed out at the top prices in Oct. 2007, i.e., those who chased out.
Where did that money go?
Maybe the smart money, like Warren Buffet, bought low and sold high. And maybe he parked his money in complete safety in T-bills or T-bonds or some such place (with little to no risk).
Then, when the market crashed -- because Warren's not stupid to ride a bear market down and hold on -- then when he thought he saw the bottom, he started . . .
Buying low to hold for the low-term climb back to the next big high.
Disclaimer. This is spin. This is a guess. This is not based upon any insider facts, per se -- per rather just one possible scenario.
There is no value in the actual paper. The only value is derived from someone wanting to buy the share of stock. If no one wants to buy it and if everyone wants to sell their shares, then the market price drops.
In other words, the only frothy value per the market high of 14,000 was based upon impression, not reality. There is no "value" reality until someone sells their shares.
Therein, when an investor buys a share in say 2001 at 10 dollars and that same share is selling for 60 dollars in Oct. of 2007, that is only a perceived market value at that moment in time. There never was any money from anywhere added to the initial $10, turning it into $60. So when the market crashes and the $60 share returns to $10. It's a wash. Nothing disappears. $10 was only used to buy the share in the first place, i.e., it's all in the mind.
Now, there is the question of what happened to the money of those who bailed out at the top prices in Oct. 2007, i.e., those who chased out.
Where did that money go?
Maybe the smart money, like Warren Buffet, bought low and sold high. And maybe he parked his money in complete safety in T-bills or T-bonds or some such place (with little to no risk).
Then, when the market crashed -- because Warren's not stupid to ride a bear market down and hold on -- then when he thought he saw the bottom, he started . . .
Buying low to hold for the low-term climb back to the next big high.
Disclaimer. This is spin. This is a guess. This is not based upon any insider facts, per se -- per rather just one possible scenario.
re: Division Orders
Posted by ElmGrove on 11/4/08 at 1:13 pm to La Place Mike
after
Huh.
NG futures zoomed up today. Sweet.
Well, I guess that's the cold weather, huh?
Thanks, Tigris. Good stuff.
NG futures zoomed up today. Sweet.
Well, I guess that's the cold weather, huh?
Thanks, Tigris. Good stuff.
Here's my uninformed spin on NG futures.
Like many commodities, it's investor driven, i.e., not driven by physical demand (usage).
Therein, the wild ups and down are due to "programmed trading."
Therein, those who know the software code on the programming, know the market.
Like many commodities, it's investor driven, i.e., not driven by physical demand (usage).
Therein, the wild ups and down are due to "programmed trading."
Therein, those who know the software code on the programming, know the market.
In monster-mash speak:
"Ya-hoo -- good."
"Micro-soft -- bad."
But this is only "living dead" fun talk.
With smart/Buffett investing:
"Micro-soft . . . barry, barry good."
:cat:
"Ya-hoo -- good."
"Micro-soft -- bad."
But this is only "living dead" fun talk.
With smart/Buffett investing:
"Micro-soft . . . barry, barry good."
:cat:
Any one (post-strike settlement) like Boeing stock?
Posted by ElmGrove on 11/2/08 at 12:25 am
Up?
Down?
Wash?
Down?
Wash?
re: Dead Cat Bounce, or Have we seen the Bottom?
Posted by ElmGrove on 10/13/08 at 1:22 pm to blueridgeTiger
50/50
Could go either way.
But if -- IF -- I'd had money to gamble, i.e., money I could afford to lose . . .
I would've jumped in "long" at the opening bell.
Yet, conversely, if I were, in fact, a paid financial advisor . . .
Advising an investor to gamble on my gut instinct per saying that there appeared to be at least a temporary bottom with quick profits to be made per upside momentum . . .
Well, but I'm not a gambler. I like sure things.
This could be a bear trap . . .
In that all the free money being thrown at the system might prop up the psychology of fear for a short period of time . . .
Until the free money runs dry . . .
And the fear again replaces the greed . . .
(Or not.)
Could go either way.
But if -- IF -- I'd had money to gamble, i.e., money I could afford to lose . . .
I would've jumped in "long" at the opening bell.
Yet, conversely, if I were, in fact, a paid financial advisor . . .
Advising an investor to gamble on my gut instinct per saying that there appeared to be at least a temporary bottom with quick profits to be made per upside momentum . . .
Well, but I'm not a gambler. I like sure things.
This could be a bear trap . . .
In that all the free money being thrown at the system might prop up the psychology of fear for a short period of time . . .
Until the free money runs dry . . .
And the fear again replaces the greed . . .
(Or not.)
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