ScorpioMan006

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What a dad. Instead of teaching values, you just teach him how to avoid trouble.

Teach your kid personal responsibility and he'll make the right choices.

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I feel like I've tried my best to and it's probably just me overreacting to him going to college. But worse case if he that urge to do a one night stand I'd rather go the escort route than a woman change her mind later.

I'd rather him wait until marriage before sex or at least a relationship but I'm also not naive. I know in college the urge will be there to hook up.

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None of us women are doing that.

Your son will never have sex if he follows your advice. This is a very embarrassing and LSUCOYOTE type of post.

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I know what you're saying but if it's consensual sex what's the problem? Seems like a safe route, especially for the woman. If the woman won't consent that would honestly make me suspicious that she's going to try something later on.

I agree it's cringeworthy but what's the problem of asking if she's still wanting the sex?

Honestly as a father and a Christian I'd be okay if he didn't have sex before marriage. But I'm also not an idiot.

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Previous cases seem to trend towards the male still being at fault.

And by previous cases, Scruffy means pretty much all of them.

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Sadly this is probably the case. Any time it's rape it's "immediately believe the woman" and "the guy is instantly at fault" instead of waiting for the facts to come out at trial.

But what if they were both drunk, the woman initiated and there's no other evidence of rape besides the woman saying it?

I guess it's part of the reason I'm worried for my son. I definitely feel like we raised him right but I feel almost bad thinking I'd rather him go the escort route than to have sex with any college girl. All it takes is one girl regretting the sex the day after and whoever the man she has sex with is screwed.

As an Alumni been following the sad thing about the Madison Brooks case. As someone who has a boy going to college next year (not LSU and sadly with the state of Baton Rouge glad it's not LSU) I've already had the consent discussion with him. Honestly I'm tried to tell him I would rather him go the escort route than try to hook up with most college girls. I've told him to assume no consent unless the girl says it and to reaffirm every few minutes that he has consent.

But here's my point. It seems as though the Madison Brooks Case is going to rely on consent. Obviously what those men did were despicable and I hope they sit behind bars for the rest of their life. With that said, it seems as though this case has brought up an interesting discussion regarding consent.

The defense will try to claim consent while of course the family and the prosecution will emphasize that as Madison Brooks was well above the legal limit she could not legally consent to sex.

Here's something I thought about it with this case. What if both parties are drunk? Legally then neither side could by the law legally consent to sex. As I was thinking about this in regards to my son it means by the law a whole heck of a lot of us (probably all of us at some point in college) could legally be accused of rape.

So from both the general perspective as well as from the legal perspective (for those in the legal profession on this board), what happens if both are drunk and neither can legally consent to rape? Did both parties essentially rape each other?

I find this curious as with the Me Too movement and other movements in recent years the focus is only on women not being able to legally consent when drunk. But what about if both the man and woman are drunk? Could the man essentially countersue and claim the woman drunk her as well?

With the standard now being that someone can legally claim rape due to not being able to legally consent due to being drunk I see it opening up a whole can of worms going forward.