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Chump change compared to what we lose if we keep him even just one more season.


Why does this keep getting repeated? Can one of you parrots put up any data or information that supports this or identifies how much LSU loses if we keep him? If not, then stop repeating baseless assumptions.

Fire him, move on, and I suspect LSU basketball will have more success over the next 3-5 years under a new leader. Pretty safe prediction given how pathetic we’ve been under McMahon. But LSU basketball will continue to make money whether we’re terrible or not regardless of who the coach is, and that’s solely because of the media revenue for MBB programs.
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I will say though, having a bad basketball team isn't near as detrimental as having a bad football team get destroyed on national TV.


Completely agree!
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There's tons of money to be had in basketball we arent getting right now. If you think the basketball program makes the same money whether we have nobody show up and never make the tournament as 10k fans showing up and getting into the tournament you are severely out of touch


How much more money do you think that brings in for the program than the amount of money? $1 million more? $2 million more?

I think McMahon is gone soon, but it’s not because the program would make a significant more amount of money. You’re making a lot of assumptions about basketball finances that are just wrong.

I’m all in for LSU to hire a new coach at a higher salary than McMahon (increased cost) and pay McMahon not to coach LSU (increased cost). But if you think LSU is going to make tons more money with a new coach, you’re the one severally out of touch.
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The revenue boost from a winning program will more than compensate for any buyout.


What revenue boost? Where is this boost coming from? Concessions?
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His teams are costing the program more money than what his buyout is


How much are his teams costing the program? It ain’t more than his buyout. Go look at the financials.
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I keep hearing about how the basketball program makes so much money. If this is true it must be mainly because of the SEC television contract. When I look at the paying customers in the stands, baseball and women’s basketball has them beat by a mile. Not to mention gymnastics although there are fewer home gymnasts events.


It is absolutely true that MBB makes money and in large part for the reason you point out.

According to the financials from last year (24-25), MBB generated $13.6m in operating revenue, spent $11.1m in expenses, leaving a profit of $2.5m.

Of MBB’s $13.6m in operating revenue, well over half came from media rights and distributions from NCAA and SEC:
- Media Rights = $6.8m
- NCAA Distributions = $2.1m
- SEC Distributions = $977k.
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Hire whoever can make the program self sustaining and won't whine about facility upgrades.


I’d like WW back. But he “whined” a lot about facility upgrades.

Will Wade: LSU men's basketball practice facility in 'desperate need of upgrades'

Maybe it’s because the PMAC is one of the worst basketball facilities in the SEC.

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This


You lost me. I’m not making any argument about revenue generation or revenue share. I’m stating facts. Do you not buy that LSU MBB currently receives $2.7 million of the school’s $20.5 million revenue share (15%) while LSU baseball receives no where near that amount? Or do you not buy that LSU MBB makes money regardless of whether they win or not?
Hope you’re right. And I hope WW trusts Verge and doesn’t put much into Verge’s involvement in the decision to fire hire. I’ll ride with WW again. He’s the only candidate out there that I think could generate some fans to put up the money towards a competitive roster. But I just wonder why a coach in his first year of a 6-year $17m contract at a school on the verge of making the NCAA tourney would leave to return to LSU. I think we’d have to make him a big arse offer he couldn’t refuse, and not sure LSU is prepared to do that for MBB, especially after FB buyouts and promises of 25mil + for FB roster.
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And spare me the revenue generation argument. Jay has earned this and needs to be first in line for program upgrades


What is “the revenue generation argument” you’re referring to?

LSU MBB receives ~2.7mil in revenue share for its roster. If LSU is going to promise a new HC 12.5mil for its roster. The other 10mil is going to have to come from somewhere other than LSU athletics.

Personally, I think that MBB’s 2.7mil in revenue share should be redirected entirely to JJ and LSU baseball. The hell with MBB. They make money whether they’re undefeated in SEC play and make the tourney or winless.
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Eta im hearing we could potentially guarantee the new HC 12.5/yr for the roster.


Promising a new HC 12.5/yr for a roster (which is what every candidate is going to demand) is entirely different than actually having or raising 12.5/yr to spend on a roster. Where do you think the extra 10m (above the 2.7m revenue share) is going to come from??

LSU basketball ain’t LSU football. Sure it’s more fun when LSU basketball is winning, but no one cares enough about LSU bball to make this level of “investment.”
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Will Wade is 60% chance our coach next season


Even if LSU went after WW, why would he come back to LSU? Honest question - what makes you think WW would even consider leaving NC State to come back?
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Having a good basketball team is exciting and can be a very nice moneymaker (hell, we have been making money even with the pathetic state of our basketball program).


That’s the problem. Men’s basketball makes money regardless of whether the team is good or bad. Sure, concessions may be down when we’re bad, but LSU fans don’t give up their basketball season tickets and we still share in the tv and tournament money from the conference.
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Riverbend? What decade is this??


lol
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We have one of the highest paid rosters in the country


lol. Yeah right. How much do you think this roster is paid??
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Todd Kinchen. Saw him 360 windmill dunk with ease many times.


You ever see Todd Kinchen do this?
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ESPN FPI has LSU with a 6% chance of winning. I think I would say it should be more like 0.5% chance.


So you’re telling me there’s a chance!
Is this the walk-on from Dunham that you’re referring to? LINK

“Prior to his injury, had been a basketball starter since the eighth grade at Dunham, averaging 17 points, six rebounds and seven assists per game ... Played for Coach Jonathon Pixley at Dunham, a former player for Coach John Brady when Brady was the coach at Samford ... Also played football (wide receiver, defensive back) for four years and ran the 400 meters in track ... First team All-District for four years, scored over 1,000 career points and was selected to play in the LHSCA/Coca-Cola All-Star game this past summer ... All-District for three years, including two years All-Metro and one year All-State ...”

Tuba and this 1a all-district walk-on at LSU would definitely dominate the WNBA.