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This shite is pretty damn tame by The Onion standards. Don't worry, you snowflakes will get over it.
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Their entire sample size is .00000309% of voters. That is some high powered journalism there.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_(statistics)

re: This is getting surreal

Posted by Sp0rtsBa11 on 8/24/18 at 10:25 am to
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Here we go again with "intent."


Intent is part of it, but it's also like the difference between filing your taxes a day late and committing tax fraud.

The FEC also hit the Trump campaign with thousands of counts of civil FEC infractions (i.e., reporting errors) just like the ones Trump keeps pointing out about Obama. You're unaware of those because, like they were with Obama, they're barely newsworthy. That's not what Cohen plead guilty to and claims Trump was an active participant in.
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Do we have any evidence that Trump banged Stormy?



If he's so easy to extort that he's knowingly breaking campaign finance laws and spending hundreds of thousands of dollars in a cover up of a relationship that wasn't even real, then he's even more unfit to be president than anyone could possibly have imagined.
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At what point was it no longer an honor to be mentioned/meet the President?



January 20th, 2017 at 12:00 pm Eastern Standard Time.

re: The Girlfriend Payoff Meeting

Posted by Sp0rtsBa11 on 8/23/18 at 9:31 am to
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Doesn’t it make more sense that these particular women sought out the “hush” money by extorting then Candiate Trump?



Who knows? The fact that Keith Davidson, a lawyer that Michael Cohen is close with and has referred clients to in the past, just happens to have been the lawyer for all of these women AND who explicitly reached out to Cohen to confirm that McDougal's deal with AMI was done despite Cohen supposedly having nothing to do with that negotiation lends credence to the idea that Cohen and Trump were the instigators.

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Is that legal???


Regardless, it doesn't make Trump and Cohen's actions any less illegal.

re: Is Donald Trump, Jr next?

Posted by Sp0rtsBa11 on 8/23/18 at 8:57 am to
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Cohen also told Congress that Trump did not know about the meeting



Which is why he would need corroborating evidence. Cohen also said that Trump didn't know about the hush money payments. Now he says Trump did know, AND we've all heard the audio tape of them discussing it in October 2016.

Cohen already made his plea deal, and his lawyer has indicated that they are cooperating with Mueller.

re: Is Donald Trump, Jr next?

Posted by Sp0rtsBa11 on 8/23/18 at 8:43 am to
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Are discrepancies in Trump, Jr's testimony before Congress and the Feds enough to constitute "lying to the FBI"?



Well, we know DJ TJ told congress that Trump didn't know about the Trump Tower meeting.

Cohen is now cooperating with Mueller, Cohen says Trump knew, and so if Cohen has any text message or email to support that claim, then yes, DJ TJ will be indicted for lying under oath.
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That’s a solid spin to defend the most corrupt administration since Ulysses S Grant.



That's a nice way to dodge the fact that you're simply horribly uninformed about the very issue you've got your panties in a bunch over.
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They were hit with one of the largest fines in history. That’s not due to paperwork errors.



They raised more money than any campaign in history, and the amount of the fine basically scaled reasonably with the amount of donations and money brought in. I love the way you double down on your own ignorance, though.

The amount that the Trump campaign was fined hasn't been made public yet to my knowledge, but they were also hit for thousands of similar reporting errors, and the only reason you're unaware of it is that the "anti-Trump" media treated it like the non-story it is.
And beyond that, the FEC has already hit Trump for thousands of reporting errors just like the Obama campaign. Trump's campaign finance reporting errors were barely covered, even by the so called "anti-Trump" media, because, like Obama's they are barely newsworthy. Trump knowingly conspiring to both facilitate and then coverup illegal campaign contributions is completely different.

The crybabies comparing the two might as well be saying that driving with an expired brake tag is the exact same thing as vehicular homicide since they're both traffic violations. And the cherry on top is that Trump is guilty of BOTH.
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One can not accept or deny a pardon.


Actually, the supreme court has ruled on multiple occasions that a person may indeed reject a pardon.
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No need for 3 exclamation points in a paragraph. It's socially awkward



Just trying to fit in with you guys and Trump! I guess I should throw in some more spelling errors to get the full effect though...
Don't worry, Donnie! Cohen will be disbarred for his convictions on felonies the two of you committed together! You're the last crook he'll ever serve!
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What's this board's opinion on Proud Boys?


They are exactly what you'd expect given that they're basically a mashup Stormfront and /r/nofap.
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So much for him “flipping”


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Cohen's attorney would like a word...

“Mr. Cohen has knowledge on certain subjects that should be of interest to the special counsel and is more than happy to tell the special counsel all that he knows,” Davis told the network.

“Not just about the obvious possibility of a conspiracy to collude and corrupt the American democracy system in the 2016 election, which the Trump Tower meeting was all about, but also knowledge about the computer crime of hacking and whether or not Mr. Trump knew ahead of time about that crime and even cheered it on.”
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Wasn't Obama campaign found guilty of this?


Simple errors in reporting. The FEC has already hit the Trump campaign with complaints about over 1000 such errors.

The difference is run of the mill errors in reporting that occur in every campaign vs Trump explicitly endorsing and overseeing illegal campaign contributions and the plan to knowingly hide those contributions. The former is barely news, which is why you were apparently unaware that the Trump campaign has already been dinged for thousands of such errors because the supposedly "anti-Trump" media has barely reported on them. The latter is a different beast entirely.

But hey, tell yourself it's the same if you need to. :lol:
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This is a total loss for Mueller and the Dems. A loss for Cohen. And a nothingburger for Trump.



They received more scrutiny. They didn't have a corrupt Republican congress carrying water for them and trying to shut down and discredit investigations.
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In ALL of this, nothing yet on Trump


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The jury asked in a note signed by the foreman today: "If we cannot come to a consensus for a single count, how can we fill in the verdict sheet?"

I think we are misinterpreting this .....looks like the jury cannot reach a consensus on any of the counts



Not true, this is the actual text of the note.

“Your honor, if we cannot come to a consensus on a single count, how should we fill in the jury verdict form for that count, and what does that mean for the final verdict?”

The simplest interpretation is that they are unanimous on 17 out of 18 counts, and there is one "single" count that they are not unanimous on.

I could also see the foreman phrasing it this way if they had a consensus on multiple counts, but maybe couldn't agree on just a few. The phrasing definitely indicates that there is just one that they can't agree on, but they're jurors, not lawyers, and maybe they just want to know how to mark the verdict sheet for a few counts for which they cannot agree on guilty or not-guilty.

Also, the fact that they are asking how this would affect the "final verdict" definitely seems to indicate that they do intend to deliver a verdict on some of the counts even if that they can't reach one for all 18. It seems they want to be assured that mistrial on one count doesn't automatically mean a mistrial on all counts (and it doesn't).