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The JSU band casually walked onti the field and git in formation. My 11 year old daughter thought that was strange, since she is used to seeing LSU March onto the field in formation.


That is because there wasn't enough time allotted to march onto the field. At home games where JSU has the full time, they march on.
Irish LSU Fan... check my name. I think you mistook me for an LSU fan. My screen name is GameCockSaturdayNite (reference to an old JSU band tune). I am a JSU fan and former Marching Southerner.

Our band does a ton of recruiting. When we played at Kentucky, the band played an exhibition that night at the KMEA State Championships. We had a table set up with recruiting and band scholarship information. On our way to Michigan two years ago we stopped in Tennessee to do an exhibition for local high schools. They stopped at Satsuma HIgh School on the way to Baton Rouge to play an exhibition for a gathering of local high school bands from the Mobile area who might not normally get to see the Southerners.

Another reason the band is good is that we award something like $700,000 in band scholarships. Our band has an unusually high number of music majors marching.

I know we are very close to 80's DCI. That is what I said. If more than half of LSU shows have been pop, they aren't much like us...unless you consider Shostakovich pop! We do have an affinity for Spanish tunes though...One more time! I have watched LSU shows. From what I have seen you do much simpler musical arrangements, and a combination of block + follow the leader drill. Like most FBS bands, you probably change shows during the year. We don't. Our music is more technically demanding, and our drill has more sets... and we add new wrinkles all year long.

I would say that our staff is phenomenal compared to anyone. Dr. Ken Bodiford was a 20J (tuba) player in the Southerners back in the early 80's, before becoming the drum major. He studied under Dr. David Walters, the Director of over 30 years who built the program. Having that connection is priceless. He understands the history and tradition of the program.

Again, I appreciate the positive comments about our band. We went through a dark period in the early 90's after Dr. Walters retired. We hired an outsider to lead the band program, and he (while very musically talented) almost destroyed the program. Our enrolment was under 200 in 1993, the year before Ken took over. He took us back to our roots, and the program has grown ever since. I am sure LSU can do the same!
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They are not better than Auburn, Alabama, etc. Bigger is not always better, but in this case, it was much better. We should (and used to) have the best band in the SEC.


I hope you are referring to LSU not being better than Auburn, Alabama, etc. They don't compare well to JSU. No SEC band does.

If you meant JSU, that is ok. I admit that "better" is a subjective term. Some people probably prefer the Kanye West's version of "Bohemian Rhapsody," to the Queen version.

It is difficult to compare bands because of stylistic differences. In terms of musicianship, The Marching Southerners are a level above most, due to the heavy recruiting of top high school band programs in Georgia, and the DCI connections. The staff is phenomenal as well. The JSU Percussion section is top 5 nationally. Our band is a corp style band but closer to 80's DCI than to modern, and I am glad of that... modern DCI has ceased to be music. It is art, but not music. The size of our band limits our drill somewhat, and makes it harder to clean... so smaller, modern corp style bands like Riverside Community College and The University of North Alabama would claim superiority due to their cleaner shows and faster drill. The problem is, their interpretive shows are fingers on a chalkboard to a lot of purists.

TAMU has a cool band... as does Michigan State. They are both really good, but really different than us. Comparing us to bands like that is like arguing whether or not a banana or a lemon is a better watermelon. Probably the bands most similar to us are Western Carolina and MTSU, though both of them play more modern music, whereas we play more classical. They are both very good at what they do. James Madison is also similar, and usually very good. The Troy State Sound of the South wants badly to be in the discussion...but they really suck... and they do it loudly.
Thanks for the compliments.

I was brought to tears when I heard what your band had done for our Ballerinas. As you may know, one of our young ladies was killed in an auto accident this week. Your band made a hand drawn card with her likeness surrounded by roses and they all signed it, and presented it along with flowers to our band. I found that really touching.
I would feel better if we had Dawson Wells at MLB. He was the answer to power run teams last season... unfortunately he graduated. Stoudemire replaced him and has the size but not the experience (RSo).

Our DC is good, and I am sure he knows what adjustments are needed to our alignment. WIth your OL and RB's, I don't know that it will matter. That is where the mismatch is.
You are probably right.

As I said, I don't expect us to have a lot of success.

You guys are hard on your team because you lost, but the reality is that your defense is outstanding. If you shut us down, it is because you have a great defense, not because our offense is bad. You will shut a lot of teams down.

Our offensive deficiency is that we don't have the personnel to line up and smack you in the mouth. That is the formula to have offensive success against LSU. It will be very hard for us to have sustained success. I am hopeful we can possess the ball between the 20's for long enough to rest our defense, and that we can pop off a big play or 3 to keep the pressure on. If the talent gap is so big that schemes are out the window and it turns into a straight-up 11 vs 11, we lose by 30+. We have a lot of talent for a FCS team... equal to most G5 and better than a lot of them... but we aren't SEC level - though I think we would beat the cellar-dwellers more than we would lose to them.
Aside for injuries his RF season, Eli is a four-year starter.

You don't get named first-team AA and put on watch lists for top awards because you got up for one game.

There is a reason FBS teams were back-door contacting him in the off-season to see if he was interested in transferring. He would be starting at LSU right now if he was there.
Honestly, I worry that you will be able to line up and mash us. Our DL is very good, but they are FCS good. Your OL is huge and your RB's are monsters. I am hopeful that we can slow you down and our offense can keep yours off of the field.
Our OL will have its hands full. I imagine the gameplan will be to roll Eli out and get him space. They won't leave him in the pocket against your rush. He throws really well on the run, and his threat to tuck and run will keep your rush honest.

If Barge is healthy, he will present a challenge for your DB's. We have a couple of others who are good, but I don't think that they can consistently cause you problems. Barge can. It isn't that he is really tall or really fast, he is just really good. He has a knack for getting space, and catches anything that comes near him. He made Auburn's secondary look like high-school players. I know that your secondary is better than Auburn's, but Barge is our best hope to cause problems. Without him, we will have trouble keeping drives alive. We may pop a big gain or 3, but Barge is our money receiver.
Yeah... keep telling youself that. I hope your team feels the same way. That is why Eli only had 344 yards of total offense against Auburn last season, playing alongside a roster full of FCS players. If he was behind a FBS line with FBS receivers and backs, he would light it up the same way.
Eli Jenkins is the Stats first team All American QB. He is a legit dual-threat QB, with almost 9000 total career yards and 66 TD's.

That isn't trolling.

Who on your schedule is better? Chad Kelley may be a better pure passer, but not nearly the running threat. In our offense I wouldn't trade for him.
Like I said... if we don't score much, it is the result of LSU having one of the best defenses in the country, not because we don't have a quality offense.

Laugh all you want, but if you had Eli Jenkins at QB, you would be 1-0 and the game against Wisconsin wouldn't have been close. Josh Barge would start at wide receiver for LSU. Our 3 preseason all-conference OL (one AA) are good, but your DL is otherworldly.

We have 4 players on offense who are on the Stats FCS All-America team, with two being first team. Add in that these guys are seniors and have played a lot of football, and saying that they will be one of the best offenses you will face this season is a fair statement.

It all comes down to how we handle the battle in the trenches. Those three OL have the talent and technique to play against LSU, but you can't coach size and speed. You may shut us down, but it isn't because we don't have a quality offense.
Quality spread teams? I have concerns regarding your DL and LB speed, but don't discount our offense as not being quality. We will have one of the best offenses you face this season, regardless of division. Our QB is the best on your schedule, and our backs and receivers could start at a lot of P5 schools.

If Josh Barge plays (questionable), we will score enough to make it interesting. If he doesn't, or is playing hurt, it will depend on whether or not someone else steps up.

The real question is how we handle your defense. Your defense is legit. They didn't cost you the game against Wisky... but make no mistake, our offense is better than Wisconsin's.
A couple of additional facts about our marching band.

They are not part of the athletic department. I don't know how it is at LSU, but at many schools, the marching band falls under the auspices of the AD. At JSU, they are part of the school of music. The band receives a lot of appreciation and support from the football program, and they have a relationship that is probably unique among universities. The head coach was at band practice last week and spoke to the band... the band and football team have an annual bbq mixer and the band performs for the football team (they never get to see the show otherwise). Maybe it is because we have less than 10k students, but it is a big family.

Band - Football Mixer

I will try to help...

JSU has an outstanding music education program, and is in close proximity to Georgia. Georgia produces some of the best high school marching bands in the country. They aren't generally as good as the top bands in Indiana or Oklahoma, but there are more of them that are very good than in those states. Because of JSU's music ed program and location, there are many JSU graduates working as band directors in Georgia. The Marching Southerners play a lot of exhibition shows at band contests in Georgia, Those schools serve as a recruiting pipeline to Jacksonville. JSU doesn't simply pull 500+ members from the student body, a significant number of those students chose JSU as their destination because of the marching band program. If you search "Band Director graduated Jacksonville State" you will find a ton of them, and many at the college level as well. The band directors at Ole MIss, Alabama (co-director Randall Coleman), and Georgia Tech are JSU grads...just found another one... Boise State...
We wouldn't know what it is like to play in front of largely empty stands, as our band doesn't travel to FCS away games. Our home attendance averaged close to 21,000 last year, and our stadium seats 24,000. The average was pushed down a bit by one or two games.

What hurts our attendance is that FCS fans don't travel well, but most of the 21k are our own fans. If we were FBS we would have to expand the stadium again to accommodate visiting fans and the increase that would come from playing more recognizable names. We don't get as many casual fans coming to see games against Austin Peay as we would if we played Southern Miss type teams - and maybe an occasional 2 for 1 with a P5 school... but we can't seem to get an invite to the FBS. Our attendance now is higher than many if not most Sunbelt / MAC teams. The Sunbelt doesn't want any part of us.

If anyone is interested in watching one of our games from last season, this is a link to our game against SHSU in the playoffs. JSU vs SHSU

Our band will only be marching 450 for the field show. Our band has been invited to perform at the 75th anniversary of the Pearl Harbor attack in December, so we are doing a patriotic show. I imagine we will be performing the closer in Baton Rouge. Even though it is early in the season, it should be pretty good.

As for the instrumentation, the earlier poster was right that we have a very strong percussion section. The brass section is also quite good, but with our numbers so high we have a lot of woodwinds - 60 saxophones I think. The most interesting section of our band is the tuba line. We march 30 Conn 20J upright recording basses. It is a 50 pound Tuba that has been out of production since the mid 1960's. They are heavily silver plated and produce a tone that is much darker than modern sousaphones... we are kind of famous for marching them.

I am anxious to see this year's show when it is completed. Our 2009 patriotic show was amazing, and last year was just kind of meh. 2014 was pretty good. Here is a link. You guys know how to search youtube so I won't bore you to death with links. Just search Marching Southerners if interested and you will get tons of hits.

Thanks for the hospitality and we look forward to playing in Tiger Stadium.

2014 Marching Southerners

Hello Again, LSU folk!

Posted by GamecockSaturdayNite on 8/23/16 at 8:41 am
I thought i would share this video from our band director.

Hope things are improving for everyone in LA.
I don't know how to embed on this board. If you do, feel free.

Blessings!

JSU for LSU
We are probably a few notches better than Eastern Michigan across the board. I doubt it will mean much to the outcome of the game, but EMU was 1-11 last season, with losses to some really bad teams. I don't think it is a stretch to say that we are good enough compete for the MAC Championship.

Win or lose it is always fun to play the big boys. If we can make you guys a little uncomfortable for a while it is a win for the fans. Our players go into every game with the goal of winning, and it shows in how closely we usually play against top teams from the FBS.
Our only answer to the pressure will be the mobility of our QB. If you watched us against Auburn, that same QB is back for his senior season, and on the preseason watch list for FCS offensive player of the year. The WR who ate Auburn's lunch (Josh Barge) is back as well. Our offense is loaded.

I am NOT saying that we are going to win the game, but Eli is more than capable of making plays with his legs, and extending plays when pressure comes. I don't know that he will be the best QB you face this season, but he will be one of them. Our defense scares me against you guys... but I do think we will make some plays on offense. I don't know if it will be enough to keep it respectable, but we will make some plays.

Win or lose, our goal is getting back to Frisco for the FCS title game. Last season was our first time playing in it, and we choked under the pressure. We tend to play much better in FBS games because there is no pressure. We are supposed to lose.
Perrilloux was a great player for us... unfortunately we were strapped with a horrible coach who couldn't spell defense, let alone coach it. To make matters worse, we were on APR probation RP's senior year and sat at home during the playoffs - in spite of winning the conference.

We did put the fear of God into Florida State that year though...
Winning the game is very unlikely for us. The only thing I am sure we will win is halftime :cheers:

I know... most of your fans use halftime to hit the head. We take halftime seriously :lol:

...and we don't like talking about the Auburn game. Talk about one that got away...