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PIPEKING
| Favorite team: | Wisconsin  |
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So you think your receivers are as good as ours?
I think Wheelwright has the potential to be if he can overcome injury bug and some of the drops like he had Sat.
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Just shows you how Saturday's game was Wisconsin's super bowl. They're still posting here 2 days after the game ended.
Nope, it was a big win for sure, but we have had much bigger. Beating #1 ranked Ohio State twice (2003 and 2010) comes to mind and was far more important. I like to keep track of the pulse of all our opposition throughout the season. Just kinda my thing.
Plus, we play Akron next, I'm not sure they even have a board to lurk on?
On Wisconsin!!!
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Not to be rude, but your team is in no way shape or form a match for LSU if they were coached by competent offensive minded coaches.
I've watched the game twice now and I failed to find even one position on the field that Wisconsin didn't match up... including RB.
PLEASE STOP WITH THE INFERIOR UW TALENT BIT.
UW's CBs Tindal and Sheldon held your "NFL" receivers in check all day, and when they were open they dropped a lot of passes. So did ours, but I saw our "lowly" UW receivers came uncovered quite a few times.
Your all everything RBs put up the same numbers as our "inferior" RB group. Fornette is a stud, but Clement is not that far behind.
Our O-line which, BTW, will all be NFL caliber when done, pushed your "NFL caliber" D-lineman around.
As far as LB...I can only remember a few plays where your stud LBs even had major impact, however UW's 3 star LBs and Dline where blowing up your offense almost every single play. Just keep in mind that after Orr went out on the first play, you didn't even see our two best ILBs.
I don't think even you will disagree that UWs special teams were far better then yours.
QB play... about even. Both had some good and some bad throws.
That reality of the game was that we dominated you in every facet of the game. If not for 2 boneheaded turnovers and a questionable coaching call on a 4th down we could have won by 20 plus.
Fact is, you got your asses kicked, it wasn't just coaching schemes and play calling. YOU WERE OUT TALENTED. 5 stars only count until the player gets on campus. Then the mettle of the man is developed and honed which UW does it almost better then anyone.
re: Not to gloat but...
Posted by PIPEKING on 9/4/16 at 3:17 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
El goto, Ok, you're right, I might have been here to gloat a little.... sorry, but understand that for UW this was a great program win. It proved that we are starting to get back to our roots after the Gary Andersen era which tried to fundamentally change what UW was built on!
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But that game was painful to watch
IDK, as a former offensive lineman, it was kind of a thing of beauty. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder I guess. LOL. That type of game we UW fans are used to and it works for us.
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Y'all Wisconsin fans need to stop sucking yourselves off. If our head coach wasn't a fricking retard we could've ran y'all out of the stadium.
Not trying to pick fights. I know you guys will only blame coaching, but the truth is you were kind of manhandled in both trenches. Its tough to win anywhere when you are getting pushed around up front.
Not to gloat but...
Posted by PIPEKING on 9/4/16 at 2:52 pm
I think I pretty much nailed how this game could go. LINK
I expect that your team will improve and contend for the SEC west title. But you need better QB play.
FWIW, I loved this match up between UW and LSU....THAT WAS SMASH MOUTH FOOTBALL and it was awesome, enjoyed every second of it whether we won or lost. It was a hard fought game in the best possible venue. Lets do it again sometime. I'll be rooting for you the rest of the way. Good Luck!
On Wisconsin!
I expect that your team will improve and contend for the SEC west title. But you need better QB play.
FWIW, I loved this match up between UW and LSU....THAT WAS SMASH MOUTH FOOTBALL and it was awesome, enjoyed every second of it whether we won or lost. It was a hard fought game in the best possible venue. Lets do it again sometime. I'll be rooting for you the rest of the way. Good Luck!
On Wisconsin!
re: UW-Madison Is #1 for "party schools" and institutions with "lots of beer."
Posted by PIPEKING on 8/29/16 at 5:20 pm to LSU GrandDad
The whole point of this thread was really to wish you all safe travels. Enjoy your time in a very special place. Not just Lambeau, but all of the great things WI has to offer. Have fun, be safe. On Wisconsin!!!
[quote] Playboy has published a list of party schools in 1987, 2002, 2006, and every year since 2009. The 1987 list included forty schools, with sixteen honorable mentions; California State University. In 2002, the list featured twenty-five schools and ten honorable mentions and was topped by Arizona State University. The University of Wisconsin–Madison placed first among ten schools in 2006,
It is widely believed that Playboy released additional lists of party schools in the past, but this claim has been debunked by Snopes.com. Playboy did describe the University of Wisconsin as "the party school" in a September 1968 issue.
Looks like we were both wrong but don't see any mention of LSU.
It is widely believed that Playboy released additional lists of party schools in the past, but this claim has been debunked by Snopes.com. Playboy did describe the University of Wisconsin as "the party school" in a September 1968 issue.
Looks like we were both wrong but don't see any mention of LSU.
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LSU's party reputation in the 90's was much bigger than any schools today
OK, your right, I forgot you're LSU so it must have been better? How exactly are you quantifying that statement?
All I know is that I graduated HS in 1991 and that year UW was #1 on Playboy's Party School with ASU 2nd.
I'm sure your school is a blast to attend, and you should be proud of your school, but certainly you don't corner the market on partying and never have. But I hope you have fun trying.
re: UW-Madison Is #1 for "party schools" and institutions with "lots of beer."
Posted by PIPEKING on 8/29/16 at 1:56 pm to Coeur du Tigre
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LSU had that same reputation in the 90's
UW also has had that reputation since the 90's... the 1890's!
re: LSU -10 favorites over Wisky...make you nervous or more confident?
Posted by PIPEKING on 8/29/16 at 1:45 pm to TigerAlum93
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Bad QB + Our secondary = Bad news for wisky
Not sure how you are coming up with this comment. Is Houston unproven... yes. Is he a bad QB? I'm a die hard Badger fan and I don't even know.
I know he can make all the throws, and he did win the starting job. I do know he was 38-1 in his career starts in High School at California powerhouse De La Salle. He also won the only game he played in last season (Illinois).
But, this is his first start in college as a 5th year senior. Maybe it will be too big of stage... but maybe he is just one of those rare QBs that are a different animal in games. We just don't know.
I think the game will be closer than expected, as I think our defense is up to the challenge. Also, if anyone can out scheme Dave Aranda, I'd trust Paul Chryst to do it.
People say Aranda knows UW's offense. But last season UW didn't have most of its talent on offense (injuries), which I'm sure limited how much Chryst could install. So honestly, I'm not sure what Aranda learned. I'd bet Chryst knows Aranda system fairly well however.
Unfortunately, I have the score 27-21 LSU
re: UW-Madison Is #1 for "party schools" and institutions with "lots of beer."
Posted by PIPEKING on 8/29/16 at 12:31 pm to LSUfanNkaty
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Hopefully there is enough!!!
That's the great thing about having it in Green Bay vs. Houston... if we run low, we just have to call down to Milwaukee and have them make more!
UW-Madison Is #1 for "party schools" and institutions with "lots of beer."
Posted by PIPEKING on 8/29/16 at 12:15 pm
The Princeton Review's annual rankings, released on Monday, placed the university No. 1 in its categories for "party schools" and institutions with "lots of beer." UW-Madison took the No. 5 spot in the "lots of hard alcohol" category as well.
I only post this to wish all of you LSU fans coming to Green Bay safe travels and to remind you to pack your drinking livers! This is gonna get nuts! Enjoy!
I only post this to wish all of you LSU fans coming to Green Bay safe travels and to remind you to pack your drinking livers! This is gonna get nuts! Enjoy!
re: Looks like LSU Wisconsin ticket prices are in a freefall on the secondary market
Posted by PIPEKING on 8/20/16 at 3:19 pm to tigerpimpbot
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I thought it was because Barry Alvarez was scared to play in Tiger Stadium
Actually, UW has a very hard time getting the "Big boys" to do a home and home. There is a lot of risk for teams that are considered "blue bloods" to come to Madison. Camp Randall is known as one of the toughest home environments in CFB. That, along with UW's on field success for the past 25 years, and UW's home winning pct; makes programs with higher prestige (Texas, ND, USC, UCLA, LSU, Bama, Miami) very wary about visiting Madison. Statistically, there is a much higher chance of defeat, knocking them out of championship contention then say visiting a Minnesota or Purdue.
Wisconsin also doesn't have that "elite" program status of say a Penn State or Nebraska (even though UW has been consistently better them both programs recently). Most "Blue Bloods" don't perceive UW on their level. Just read the posts on this site as proof.
Another reason most choose not to come to Madison is Wisconsin's state HS football isn't strong, coupled with the fact the UW lands 90% of the D1 talent in the state. Little recruiting advantage for the "blue bloods" to risk it.
Barry has no problem with scheduling the "Big boys" (see LSU, Bama), he just cant get the "big boys" to agree to come to Madison. IMO, there was little chance LSU would ever have come to WI had it not been for the chance to play a neutral site game in iconic Lambeau Field.
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this team has more talent than our 2011 team that went 13-0
That 2011 team was great and I wanted UW to get a piece of them so bad. If the playoff system had been around I am pretty sure we would have played you in the first round with Russell Wilson and the boys. That would have been epic. Instead we lost a heartbreaking Rose Bowl and Alabama got a championship they didn't deserve.
re: Looking for insightful discussion about the UW -LSU game. (long)
Posted by PIPEKING on 8/11/16 at 8:48 pm to TNTigerman
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LSU will have 5-6 big plays and will score at least 45 pts. You have zero chance, brah.
Good analysis... might happen, however UW rarely gives up many big plays. You might win, but I feel it'll be more of a grind it out type game. Besides, if Bama didn't stick 45 on us last year, I feel pretty confident you won't either.
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when we went to the national championship in 2013
2013? Didn't you go 10-3 that year?
Record: 10-3, .769 W-L% (17th of 125) ? Rank: 14th in Final AP Poll
Conference: SEC (West Division) ? Conference Record: 5-3
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Clement would be 3rd string. Sorry to bust your bubble.
This can never be proven so lets just agree to disagree
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You contradict yourself. Wont Wisconsin be getting a new DC? Or do you have a clone of Aranda stashed somewhere. And you don't see that as an issue for your defense. It you do for LSU?
Yes a new DC, not a new system. We are staying in a 3-4 and like I said the system Wilcox runs are very similar to Aranda and the two have collaborated in the past. The language might change but scheme is not. LSU is changing its scheme from 4-3 to a 3-4. Language, gaps responsibilities and philosophy are all fundamentally different to learn. With the injuries, you have new players learning the roles.
Didn't say he'd start, but he would get his carries. Hell, he had 900 yards backing up Melvin as a So. Come on... give in a little bit, LSU doesn't corner the market on stud players, other teams have some too.
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Clement would be 3rd or 4th on LSU's depth chart. Maybe.
Boy that sounds a lot like the garbage in 2014 when you all stated before the game that LF7 was the best player on the field, I think Melvin proved you wrong.
Corey Clement was no where near 100% last season, but he is an absolute beast. Don't under sell his talent. He is probably the 2nd most naturally gifted back we have had at Wisconsin besides Melvin Gordon and that's saying something. Dayne, Ball, White, Bennett Fletcher, and Moss included. He could push LF7 for carries if on LSU.
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Yeah they are going to have a rough time vs LSU if they are having trouble vs Wisconsin level DBs
1. Shelton is a 4yr Starter at CB and is pretty good.
2. It was the first day of going against a live Defense since camp opened timing might be a bit off.
3. UW best WR was held out, so young WRs are running the routes. They might of zigged when they should have zagged.
I wouldn't read too much into that.
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Aranda has made every D he's coached into a top tier D...but it's not even arguable that he now has his most talent he's ever had.
I totally agree he does have more overall talent, however is that talent, the ones he needs for this system? Like I said, the Wisconsin D was much different from year one vs. year three. There was a learning curve.
Your guys are talented no doubt about it! But, are they a talented unit yet? That remains to be seen. You can have the best players in the world but if you are having trouble picking up the scheme and communicating... you could have issues. That all I'm saying.
UW QB situation is on going. Houston (4 star QB from CA) is a 5th year senior and should start vs. LSU IMO, but he is really getting pushed in camp by Hornibrook (a red shirt So.) Houston in game experience is in relief duty for an injured Stave vs Illinois. he played well and won but had two bad picks that made you wonder. Many had high hopes for him as he was very highly thought of by Chryst out of De La Salle High school. Its taken him a bit to develop. First because De La Salle runs a Veer. Second he fell out of favor with Gary Andersen as he wanted a running QB. Which led to the issue in 2014 LSU if you remember, with McEvoy starting over Stave and Stave getting "the yips". Needless to say we don't miss old Gary. Bart then by his own admission said he didn't apply himself enough to unseat Stave last season. Bart has been the most naturally skilled QB on our roster for several seasons. Just hasn't put it all together yet. But seems to have a different mindset and more confidence now that Chryst is back. Hornibrook is a 3 star guy and is the future starter, IMO. He might be a bit raw for an open vs. LSU, but the competition is real between the two. both are better passers with better arms the Stave from last year.
Looking for insightful discussion about the UW -LSU game. (long)
Posted by PIPEKING on 8/11/16 at 5:26 pm
First, I come in peace... I hope we can have a nice discourse about the game and the players involved.
I think that LSU and Wisconsin is a great match up and having it in Green Bay is amazing, I only wish I could be there. I'd really love it if the two schools would find a way to do a Home and Home in the near future. Probably wont ever happen, but it be nice to have two of the greatest fan bases host each other.
As far as the game goes... I think it will be more competitive then many of the experts think. Here is a breakdown of Wisconsin and a few reasons why I believe UW will make it a game and might actually pull an upset. Of coarse I'm a total UW homer so keep that in mind. LOL.
Respect! LSU is getting a lot, and UW is getting none!
FYI...UW IS A QUALITY PROGRAM TOO! Why UW isn't ranked to start the season is beyond me? Wisconsin is a program that has been a consistent top 25 for the better part of 2 decades. Has 6 BCS bowl appearances and has been in 14 straight bowl games. UWs played in 3 of the 5 Big Ten Championship games. UW has the second highest winning pct since '93 in the B1G behind only OSU. Wisconsin is a program that develops NFL talent and gets more drafted then some "blue blood" programs. So If you think UW can't hang because we only have "two star guys" you've got another thing coming. UW is a prideful bunch and very rarely gets blown out. Expect a game.
Aranda's gone... So What?
Dave Aranda is a great coach, no doubt, and under him UW was 10-3 last season with the 4th rated defense and 1st rated scoring defense in the nation. We lost to the Tide, Iowa, and Northwestern. The latter two, we should have beaten had it not been for a late fumble the goal line vs Iowa & a controversial call vs Northwestern on a game winning touchdown catch that was taken off the board. The defense by rights could have carried us to 12-1. That being said... the last I checked, PLAYERS make PLAYS and not a coach.
Most of that vaunted UW front 7 are back this season. Yes, we lost our two safeties and our All American OLB, but we replace him with a Watt! As in JJ's younger brother, whom JJ said was the the most athletic of the 3 Watt boys (2 in NFL). Our LB crew is deep on talent and very athletic. Our D-line has 5-6 returning guys that have quality in game experience. Also, keep an eye out for true freshman Garret Rand (4 star), he could be a beast as he already benches over 500# and squats 650+. Our DBs return one 4 year starter at CB and a 2nd CB that was was our nickel guy last season. Safeties are a serious question mark but there is unproven talent back there.
While Aranda is on the other sideline I believe that Justin Wilcox (who was a very respected DC prior to his stint at USC under "Drunk Stakisian") will help keep this 3-4 defense one of the tops in college ball. Wilcox and Aranda have had similar systems and have collaborated with each other in the past. I don't expect there to be much of a drop off honestly.
Wisconsin's offense will be better!
UW went 10-3 last season with arguably the worst offense they have had in the past 10 years. Even though UW did lose it's "all time winning-est QB", the two vying for the job are much better passers with much stronger arms. If they can move the ball without turnovers, the offense will improve. UW running game should be... well, more Wisconsin like. Stabilized by Clement's return from a sports hernia and another year of experience by the back ups I expect the run game to put up big numbers this season. TE's are going to be featured a lot in Chryst's system and we have a good one in Troy Fumagali. The WRs, especially Wheelwright, if he stays healthy, should be much stronger deep threat then last season. The O-line which was very young last season starting 4 Red Shirt Freshman and is still a bit of a question mark, however, there are now 6-8 guys that have quality game experience in the two deep. Player to watch is the new LT as he transferred from D3. He has been rumored to be a total stud. Just note that Joe Schobert, Wisconsin's AA OLB last season, proclaimed him the best OT he faced all season, which includes Alabama's, USC's and all B1G OTs.
LSU Defense. ????
I know you have a lot of talent returning and have a lot of "5 star guys" but with the injuries that seem to be mounting and Aranda trying to install a new system, there might be times when your guys are out of position. This could leave running lanes open for Clement. There was a noticeable difference between Aranda's first season and his third at Wisconsin. It will take time to implement his system effectively. There will be a learning curve, and with this an early season game vs. UW, coupled with the our knowledge of his system, Wisconsin might be best suited to exploit it and gain advantage. Remember his the system is not 100% unbeatable just ask OSU (59-0).
Is your QB better?
You can bet that Wisconsin will defend the run first with LF7 in the backfield. As stated before, I think the UW defense will rival any of the SEC defenses you'll face this season. Is your QB ready to take the next step and be able to beat teams over the top? As I recall, that seems to be what caused him fits last season. There is no doubt that if your guy can deliver on the deep pass, the game gets much easier for your backs. Can he do it? I hope not...If he can then UW may be in for a long night.
Well, just some nuggets to chew on. I am hoping for a great game and hope that all you traveling LSU fans enjoy all that Wisconsin has to offer. It really is a great and unique place. Cheers!
I think that LSU and Wisconsin is a great match up and having it in Green Bay is amazing, I only wish I could be there. I'd really love it if the two schools would find a way to do a Home and Home in the near future. Probably wont ever happen, but it be nice to have two of the greatest fan bases host each other.
As far as the game goes... I think it will be more competitive then many of the experts think. Here is a breakdown of Wisconsin and a few reasons why I believe UW will make it a game and might actually pull an upset. Of coarse I'm a total UW homer so keep that in mind. LOL.
Respect! LSU is getting a lot, and UW is getting none!
FYI...UW IS A QUALITY PROGRAM TOO! Why UW isn't ranked to start the season is beyond me? Wisconsin is a program that has been a consistent top 25 for the better part of 2 decades. Has 6 BCS bowl appearances and has been in 14 straight bowl games. UWs played in 3 of the 5 Big Ten Championship games. UW has the second highest winning pct since '93 in the B1G behind only OSU. Wisconsin is a program that develops NFL talent and gets more drafted then some "blue blood" programs. So If you think UW can't hang because we only have "two star guys" you've got another thing coming. UW is a prideful bunch and very rarely gets blown out. Expect a game.
Aranda's gone... So What?
Dave Aranda is a great coach, no doubt, and under him UW was 10-3 last season with the 4th rated defense and 1st rated scoring defense in the nation. We lost to the Tide, Iowa, and Northwestern. The latter two, we should have beaten had it not been for a late fumble the goal line vs Iowa & a controversial call vs Northwestern on a game winning touchdown catch that was taken off the board. The defense by rights could have carried us to 12-1. That being said... the last I checked, PLAYERS make PLAYS and not a coach.
Most of that vaunted UW front 7 are back this season. Yes, we lost our two safeties and our All American OLB, but we replace him with a Watt! As in JJ's younger brother, whom JJ said was the the most athletic of the 3 Watt boys (2 in NFL). Our LB crew is deep on talent and very athletic. Our D-line has 5-6 returning guys that have quality in game experience. Also, keep an eye out for true freshman Garret Rand (4 star), he could be a beast as he already benches over 500# and squats 650+. Our DBs return one 4 year starter at CB and a 2nd CB that was was our nickel guy last season. Safeties are a serious question mark but there is unproven talent back there.
While Aranda is on the other sideline I believe that Justin Wilcox (who was a very respected DC prior to his stint at USC under "Drunk Stakisian") will help keep this 3-4 defense one of the tops in college ball. Wilcox and Aranda have had similar systems and have collaborated with each other in the past. I don't expect there to be much of a drop off honestly.
Wisconsin's offense will be better!
UW went 10-3 last season with arguably the worst offense they have had in the past 10 years. Even though UW did lose it's "all time winning-est QB", the two vying for the job are much better passers with much stronger arms. If they can move the ball without turnovers, the offense will improve. UW running game should be... well, more Wisconsin like. Stabilized by Clement's return from a sports hernia and another year of experience by the back ups I expect the run game to put up big numbers this season. TE's are going to be featured a lot in Chryst's system and we have a good one in Troy Fumagali. The WRs, especially Wheelwright, if he stays healthy, should be much stronger deep threat then last season. The O-line which was very young last season starting 4 Red Shirt Freshman and is still a bit of a question mark, however, there are now 6-8 guys that have quality game experience in the two deep. Player to watch is the new LT as he transferred from D3. He has been rumored to be a total stud. Just note that Joe Schobert, Wisconsin's AA OLB last season, proclaimed him the best OT he faced all season, which includes Alabama's, USC's and all B1G OTs.
LSU Defense. ????
I know you have a lot of talent returning and have a lot of "5 star guys" but with the injuries that seem to be mounting and Aranda trying to install a new system, there might be times when your guys are out of position. This could leave running lanes open for Clement. There was a noticeable difference between Aranda's first season and his third at Wisconsin. It will take time to implement his system effectively. There will be a learning curve, and with this an early season game vs. UW, coupled with the our knowledge of his system, Wisconsin might be best suited to exploit it and gain advantage. Remember his the system is not 100% unbeatable just ask OSU (59-0).
Is your QB better?
You can bet that Wisconsin will defend the run first with LF7 in the backfield. As stated before, I think the UW defense will rival any of the SEC defenses you'll face this season. Is your QB ready to take the next step and be able to beat teams over the top? As I recall, that seems to be what caused him fits last season. There is no doubt that if your guy can deliver on the deep pass, the game gets much easier for your backs. Can he do it? I hope not...If he can then UW may be in for a long night.
Well, just some nuggets to chew on. I am hoping for a great game and hope that all you traveling LSU fans enjoy all that Wisconsin has to offer. It really is a great and unique place. Cheers!
re: Wisconsin could be a very tough outing for LSU
Posted by PIPEKING on 8/18/14 at 9:30 pm to TrueTigerTale
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This I have to point out is homerism. You mock LSU's top athletes, but you look silly doing so. Its not these recruiting services that prove LSU has the best athletes, its the pro football scouts and coaches who draft the majority of LSU players.
I mock no one. LSU has had great athletes, teams and has won NC's. But please, you have only had one more first rounder then us since 2000. 12 v. 11 So don't think you are the only ones that produce talent. Btw... the 2014 SB MVP (Wilson) and the 2013 NFL Defensive POY (Watt) are former Badgers. You can also throw in the best O-lineman in the NFL(Joe Thomas), he was also a Badger.
Melvin Gordon was just named #10 best player in CFB by NFL.com. Is it really a stretch to say he is going to be the best athlete on the field? I think not.
As far as homerism goes...I predicted LSU would win a close game. But I am not the one saying a kid fresh out of HS, that has never played a down of college ball, is the #1 player in the country...you did.
re: Wisconsin could be a very tough outing for LSU
Posted by PIPEKING on 8/18/14 at 7:50 pm to TrueTigerTale
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So your excited to see if its true about the no1 player in the entire country
You mean the No.1 HS football recruit according to _____ scout service, right?
re: Wisconsin could be a very tough outing for LSU
Posted by PIPEKING on 8/18/14 at 7:23 pm to TrueTigerTale
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Time to address a few things here, this Tiger fan gave your team respect, I posted that Wisconsin always has great Olinemen and running-backs. Hopefully, one day you learn to read without assistance! Then you post some ridiculous comment that Tiger fans don't really know how legit their players are, because whats been reported in close practices could be lies. The Big Time Tiger fans who are rewarded with being able to witness some closed practices, didn't get there by being dishonest about anything including LSU's great program, dipchit!
I can read just fine thanks.
Quick RECAP: Only after reading 14 pgs of lame speculation about the Badgers did I chime in on your post. I wasn't talking to you. My goal was only to infuse some real Badger information.
I also stated and truly believe that MGIII will be the best athlete on the field on the 30th. To which your faithful stated LF is the best true athlete. I argued my point, and provided information that disagrees with your board mates claim and he posted his retort... I laughed... and responded... again wasn't talking to you.
It just didn't sit well with me that someone would claim a true freshman that has only gone threw one season of strength and conditioning is the best athlete on the field when a legit Hiesman hopful is on the other team. That is just laughable and is blind homerism. He hasn't even played a down. If LF has a season like Dayne, Walker, Clarett, Faulk or Peterson then I was wrong. But let the kid get acclimated to the college game before you anoint him as the next coming. Or we can just agree to disagree. Fine.
Today it is common for media outlets and Scout sites to build up these kids to super human levels. It sells papers. But forgive me if I don't buy 100% of the information coming out from boosters at your practice. Not exactly non-bias reports.
re: Wisconsin could be a very tough outing for LSU
Posted by PIPEKING on 8/18/14 at 4:30 pm to NotRight37
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PIKEKING, I get it, you guys have two very good RB's behind a very good OL, You might even have a 3rd one on your team, that has not had a chance yet.I am not trying to argue that.
I am not picking a fight with you all about your team vs. UW, I picked LSU to win a close game in my first post. You guys are the ones that threw out the LF > MGIII comparisons.
This should be an awesome game. Can't wait!
On Wisconsin!!!
P.S.For the record, my handle has little to do with pot...it is tribute to one of my best friends who was leader of a band called Pipe Circus and went by the stage name Pat King. Sadly he died way to young from a brain tumor. LINK
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There is a difference between being a great athlete and being a great running back.
MGIII was a 2 time state qualifier in long jump, State runner up D1 WIAA in long jump.
Out of high school MG III Shuttle 4.17 > then LF 4.3 and MGIII 40.2" vertical jump > then L.F 29.9
MGIII Personal bests of 10.9 seconds in the 100 meters and 23.18 seconds in the 200 meters < then L.F. but we have determined that LF is faster but more athletic?... idk about that?
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And yes, Fournette is a better pure athlete than Gordon. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Fournette is faster than Gordon even though he outweighs him by almost 20 lbs.
I can't let that go... MGIII is one of the highest rated RBs in NCAA football. Is he the fastest, no... but maybe he is the fastest at recognizing a hole which matters more. Maybe MGIII burst from a dead stop to full speed is greater. Maybe his cut ability might be more developed. Perhaps the ability to carry tacklers draped on his legs is greater. Their is a lot more to being a great athletic back then speed. Which MGIII btw has plenty. Gordon's proven at this level, he at this point is a superior athlete. Fournette has not and any argument you make to the contrary is pure speculation on your part and hyperbole. Hell, LSU practices have been closed to the media, how do you really even know anything that has been said is legit. He has his chance to prove me wrong. I can't wait.
On Wisconsin!!!
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