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re: Sunbird promising iMessage for android
Posted on 12/6/22 at 6:47 pm to armsdealer
Posted on 12/6/22 at 6:47 pm to armsdealer
I had android messages going to my PC years ago, it's doable. I have 0 issues with android messaging other than shite apple videos being sent.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 6:51 pm to armsdealer
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For those questioning the good of iMessage it is how seamless it integrates with all of their products. You can message on a iphone, ipad, macbook or even an old ipod and it just works seamlessly. Every messaging app I have tried to read and reply to text messages on my PC or Samsung Tablet SUCKS. In a lab environment where I can't have a phone having iMessage on a computer would be great for me.
Go to europe, toss your sim in a shitty old iphone and leve it plugged in at your house. Land in europe, buy a data sim, you have iMessage, data, maps, oh yea, you can also text people through your phone at home that syncs to apple. The Apple ecosystem is so underrated by android people.
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 12/6/22 at 11:01 pm to BoogaBear
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I had android messages going to my PC years ago, it's doable. I have 0 issues with android messaging other than shite apple videos being sent.
Whichever Note came out in 2018 (the 9?) + an XPS laptop (17 model) running the latest version of Windows phone connect/sync sucked by comparison.
iMessage isn’t worth abandoning android for if you love it. But, fortunately or not, the thing it has that nothing else except for SMS is popular support. I think Google Allo was a better messenger. I even liked Textra better than iMessage. A perfect example of “Apple can do anything you want it to” vs “yeah, but if it’s not designed to do that, it’s a real pain in the arse” comes in to play here. I get a lot of 2am phone calls. A fair number of them require a message to another doctor. It’s a dick move to text them at 2. It’s equally dick to wait after sometime between 5/6 (plan-changing stuff happens that isn’t emergent, but you want to plan your day based on what happened overnight without being woken up to be told about it at the time). Type the message at 2 and send it in textra? It’s right there in the app and a breeze to send a few hours later.
In iOS? You have to open the shortcuts app, create a new shortcut, tell the shortcut when to run, give it permission to run without you clicking “ok” then, and then type the message and who to send it to. It’s so nonsensical that it shouldn’t really be considered a valid way to do it (though, by all accounts, if you want to make a comparison feature list, yes, you technically can send delayed texts in iOS and through iMessage on other platforms).
More annoying? Newest osx just added timing emails but not texts. Thanks. Good job.
There is plenty of neat stuff that’s fairly unique to Apple - one I use daily. I use a laptop in/out of patient rooms instead of desktops in each room. My XPS battery was dying, and I was looking for a voice to text solution. Most of these are exceedingly expensive to have medical dictionaries in. One that catches about 90% of medical terms with decent enough accuracy was the plain old OSX (its engine is Nuance/Dragon). No- it isn’t a replacement for dragon. Yes- the $1000 piece of software is better and does more.
But it doesn’t do $1000 more for me.
Bought a MacBook Air with the m1 to play around with. Now I’ve got all-day battery, acceptable speech to text, my calls and texts pop up on screen in a small window while I’m talking to patients so i can decide what’s important, and (finally) that unique thing: I can use my iPad as a second, wireless display (so I can walk in a room and back without docking and having two screens can be very nice at certain parts of my day).
So, I accidentally in the last 2 years moved into a pretty “heavy” usage of Apple, but I’m certainly not committed to it. I’m still going to buy used SFF Windows Pro desktops from Dell/Lenovo/HP for my office. I’ll still use consumer-grade windows laptops off the shelf (mostly through Costco for their warranty). I did put a Mac Mini in my office- I wrote a post about it before, but I wanted an automated way to upload to an SFTP server and was too dumb to figure out how to do it with Powershell or Python, too cheap to pay for Goodsync, too lazy to teach 15 end users a graphical SFTP program and trust them with it, and I figured out a way to do it on a network share with shell commands and Automator.
But all that fancy stuff the M1 MacBook Air does? Can’t fricking select different drawers on my printer (controlled substance paper is different than what I print letters, handouts, etc on).
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:57 am to efrad
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But now when my mother-in-law sends videos to the group, they are extremely low resolution to accommodate sending an MMS to the one phone that doesn't do iMessage. So now my wife frequently messages her mom asking for the video to be sent direct so she can see it. Which pretty much defeats the point of the video being sent out to the group.
So now we have to all migrate to a different app or we have to kick her out of the group, or just deal with it.
The problem is with iMessage, though

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Google has totally fricked up its strategy regarding messaging over the years, but Apple is clearly and obviously taking advantage of the situation and milking these inconveniences for their gain, against the experience of end users.
Other outlets have developed far superior messaging tech but Apple intentionally creates subterfuge to negatively affect the experience of its end users.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:01 am to NewIberiaHaircut
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I can tell you why it’s important to me and why I switched to Apple from Android. I used to conduct the majority of my business with my customers through email. So sending files, pictures, and videos was not an issue from my Android phone. Years ago the communication shifted to text and my customers expect to get sent the same files, pictures, etc. through text. iMessage is able to do this seamlessly through text so it makes communication easier on my end.
LINK

Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:03 am to armsdealer
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For those questioning the good of iMessage it is how seamless it integrates with all of their products. You can message on a iphone, ipad, macbook or even an old ipod and it just works seamlessly. Every messaging app I have tried to read and reply to text messages on my PC or Samsung Tablet SUCKS. In a lab environment where I can't have a phone having iMessage on a computer would be great for me.
what year is it?
I text more from my various computers than I do my phone.
And I just got a new tablet (a shitty A8 via BF deal to replace my old one that works fine but can't get new apps b/c it is out of security updates) that works seamlessly, too.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:06 am to j1897
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Go to europe, toss your sim in a shitty old iphone and leve it plugged in at your house. Land in europe, buy a data sim, you have iMessage, data, maps, oh yea, you can also text people through your phone at home that syncs to apple. The Apple ecosystem is so underrated by android people.
Or you can have a single phone that works everywhere without issue

I was in St. Lucia in June with 0 connectivity issues and LTE on mountains and it cost me nothing extra.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:11 am to Hopeful Doc
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Bought a MacBook Air with the m1 to play around with. Now I’ve got all-day battery,
I am happy Apple created this game changer for future laptops and phones/tablets. Clearly the M1 chip and architecture is heads and shoulders above other similar combinations at the moment. The Pixel Tensor has made a similar jump for its phones.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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Or you can have a single phone that works everywhere without issue
??
It's not a matter of connectivity you muppet.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:03 am to efrad
quote:well the ones crying about "the green bubble people" are. In life it is very very common to simplify things, and thats what i did. Im not backtracking on anything.
You called them appletards and said "just because he has a different phone than him," (just because, idiom: for the simple or single reason that) as in there is no further reason beyond that, don't try to walk it back now. You intentionally phrased it that way to be dramatic and suggest that iPhone users eject Android users for no other reason than owning a different phone.
quote:and its shocking how appletards want to continue a service which purposefully gives you a headache. pretty tardish dont you think?
The end users just want the least headache and Apple is purposefully and intentionally making it a headache to be in a group chat with Android users who don't have a native iMessage client
quote:Yes i comprehended that, but you are still whining and thinking about bending the knee.
you are the one crying about low resolution farm videos because apple wont implement RCS into imessage..
AlxTgr asked for an explanation of what the problem was for iMessage users and I described it, though as I said before, I am on Android.
quote:I havent ignored anything. I was giving blanket, over arching, uberly simplstic, humorous comments about Apple and you chose to take it personally. What gives?
I have put the blame on Apple in every single post I've made in this thread. You've chosen to ignore that for some reason.
quote:keep allowing apple to hold that over you. There are many ways to circumvent imessage. My family is a mixture of apple and android, yet we have albums on google photos everyone can upload to and get nice high def images and videos.
I use iMessage on a Pixel 6 phone,
This is a prime example why trolling apple threads is great. The passion makes it easy to strike a nerve. But it is also weird, you, someone with an android, someone dealing with all the issues caused by apple, take my comments personal and try to knight for apple while also blaming them.... Thats very odd to me. I would bet we live on the same common ground than what this thread has shown.
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 9:14 am
Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:10 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:its the same group of people that say "The Apple ecosystem is so underrated by android people." still think Android is stuck in 2013.
what year is it?
Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:22 am to dltigers3
Apple will shut this down. If you want e2e between ios and Android just use signal.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:25 am to CarRamrod
Posted on 12/7/22 at 10:11 am to jivy26
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If you want e2e between ios and Android just use signal.
I sincerely wish more folks in the USA would use Signal. iphones, androids, etc.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 10:16 am to j1897
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It's not a matter of connectivity you muppet.
"without issue"
Learn to read
Posted on 12/7/22 at 10:17 am to j1897
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Hopefully it's not stuck in 2018 either.
If you don't think Apple is doing the same, I have some beach front property in Arizona to sell you
Posted on 12/7/22 at 1:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
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"without issue"
Learn to read
Connectivity isn't the reason you would do that. Jesus fricking christ you're dense.
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If you don't think Apple is doing the same, I have some beach front property in Arizona to sell you
Well they aren't, they do not allow apps to scan your text messages and voicemails. But since you're so goddamn smart login to your apple developer account, and show me the API that allows this. I'll wait.
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 12/7/22 at 2:47 pm to armsdealer
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For those questioning the good of iMessage it is how seamless it integrates with all of their products.
The problem with iMessage is that it's for apple device only. iMessage works fine for anyone with iOS. Apple knows this and purposefully uses the snot-green bubbles b/c it literally keeps some people buying their phones as opposed to android. I'm one of those people. I come from a big family and we have several family text groups that share pictures and videos all the time. The moment that I could participate in all that with android, I'll drop this iphone.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:05 pm to TigerinATL
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I think the better question is how did Google not have a better messaging strategy for the last decade plus to make a product that could have ended this rivalry
Because it's an open ecosystem that requires collaboration from many parties vs Apple's closed system. It took a shite ton of pushing from Google to get RCS adopted as a standard, and then even more to get buy-in from cell carriers to carry RCS messages. Carriers wanted to do their own monetized versions, which would have been horrible. In addition, each Android phone manufacturer has their own messaging app and they took forever to add RCS, to the point most just eventually adopted Google's app.
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:07 pm to DoubleDown
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I sincerely wish more folks in the USA would use Signal. iphones, androids, etc.
I still have some concern about Signal. They have centralized servers that, theoretically, could have a back door for Big Brother to get in. That said, it's immeasurably better than unencrypted comms.
Since nobody I know uses Signal anyway, I use Element for encrypted comms with my team.. decentralized messaging protocol with E2E encryption, video and voice calls.
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 6:09 pm
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