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Rural Internet Setup
Posted on 7/3/23 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 7/3/23 at 1:37 pm
I’m about to get Starlink at the house. This will be the first internet that we’ve had in roughly 10 years. What is the best way to get wireless internet to my barn roughly 250 feet away through trees?
Posted on 7/3/23 at 1:46 pm to baobabtiger
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What is the best way to get wireless internet to my barn roughly 250 feet away through trees?
Due to the trees, the best would be do underground conduit with fiber or ethernet cable. You really need good line-of-site for all high speed wireless long distance options.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 2:05 pm to baobabtiger
Do you have power in the barn?
Posted on 7/3/23 at 2:07 pm to notsince98
quote:I think the trees would be more of a problem for conduit than wireless. I think a pair of 5AC locos will shoot through only 250' of trees just fine.
Due to the trees, the best would be do underground conduit with fiber or ethernet cable. You really need good line-of-site for all high speed wireless long distance options.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 2:27 pm to Korkstand
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I think a pair of 5AC locos will shoot through only 250' of trees just fine.
Uh...no. Not likely. If you want to go that route you'll want to look at the Unifi UBB setup.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 2:43 pm to baobabtiger
OP, if you really want to try wireless, you probably want to look at something in the 900Mhz range from Unifi:
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Posted on 7/3/23 at 5:16 pm to notsince98
quote:Without knowing how dense the trees are I think there is a good chance of getting 100+ mbit with the 5ac locos. Worth a try at $100 for the pair of them IMO. Maybe the nanobeam 2ac at $200/pair would do a bit better. I think the UBB building bridge for $500 would do worse through trees being 60ghz.
Uh...no. Not likely. If you want to go that route you'll want to look at the Unifi UBB setup.
Maybe it's just me, but I'd definitely take a shot with $100 worth of wireless gear before trying to dig a trench and run conduit. Again, if the trees are so dense that wireless won't punch through, where are you going to run conduit?
Posted on 7/5/23 at 8:12 am to Korkstand
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I think the UBB building bridge for $500 would do worse through trees being 60ghz.
UBB is dual band (not just 60 Ghz) but it is also much higher gain....regardless 900Mhz should be the first route.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 9:11 am to notsince98
quote:Yeah 60 and 5ghz, same as 5ac loco. I think 60ghz has no chance.
UBB is dual band (not just 60 Ghz)
quote:I believe the UBB has lower gain at 5ghz than the loco, though maybe I am reading it wrong.
it is also much higher gain
quote:Typically 900mhz is recommended as the last resort due to the lower throughput ceiling.
regardless 900Mhz should be the first route.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 9:25 am to Korkstand
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Typically 900mhz is recommended as the last resort due to the lower throughput ceiling.
and if getting several hundred megabit throughput is the goal then going hardwire is the only realistic option.
This post was edited on 7/5/23 at 9:25 am
Posted on 7/5/23 at 9:51 am to notsince98
quote:That depends entirely on how dense the trees are. A photo from OP would help a lot.
and if getting several hundred megabit throughput is the goal then going hardwire is the only realistic option.
I put up a pair of 5ac locos a month ago, 430' through trees and it gets 200+ mbit. There are 10 security cameras on the other side of it and they work perfectly.
But again I ask, if the trees are that dense, how will you bury conduit?
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:42 am to baobabtiger
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I’m about to get Starlink at the house. This will be the first internet that we’ve had in roughly 10 years. What is the best way to get wireless internet to my barn roughly 250 feet away through trees?
a good mesh network should get you that pretty easily.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 6:03 pm to Korkstand
I’m looking to extend my Wi-Fi approximately 250 feet also. I am trying to hook up a security camera and want Wi-Fi access at that distance. Will this work for that? How hard is it to set up?
Posted on 7/6/23 at 6:38 pm to wildcat3
quote:I'm talking about point-to-point wireless bridge radio links, they don't extend your wifi. Think of them as a wireless wire, and on the other end you can put whatever gear you need. Switch, cameras, a wifi access point, whatever.
I’m looking to extend my Wi-Fi approximately 250 feet also.
quote:As long as you have power on the far end to run your equipment it'll work. In addition to the wireless bridge, you will need a switch (PoE probably), into which you will plug your camera and wifi access point.
I am trying to hook up a security camera and want Wi-Fi access at that distance. Will this work for that?
quote:Depends on what you get and whether they are pre-paired. I usually get them unconfigured so I go through all the setup, and if you've never done it it may be a little daunting. If you get a pair that's already linked you should just have to wire them up and point them at each other.
How hard is it to set up?
Here is a crude visual aid because I know it can be confusing:
<-->internet<--->modem<--->router<--->switch<--->PoE brick<--->PtP radio<....wireless...>PtP radio<--->PoE brick<--->switch<--->other devices
Posted on 7/6/23 at 8:55 pm to Korkstand
Do you think a mesh system would get what I need with one satellite around75 feet and the other about 180 feet further?
Posted on 7/6/23 at 9:10 pm to wildcat3
You can try it, but I wouldn't have high hopes for it. I would put them near a window if indoors but preferably outside with line of sight. Wifi wasn't really designed for long range, but a mesh setup might surprise me. Haven't tried one that far.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 9:43 pm to Korkstand
Thanks again!! I’ll try your setup if I can get it figured out.
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