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New home build: link me the bulk Ethernet cable I need

Posted on 6/8/19 at 6:41 pm
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6288 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 6:41 pm
I’m pulling all the wires and will eventually terminate everything in a media closet and at each location. Let me know what bulk roll of Ethernet cable I need to use for this install.

Note: I will be future-proofing as much as possible with conduits dropping down from the attic to each location.
Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/8/19 at 6:56 pm to
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11460 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 7:51 pm to
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Monoprice is where you need to look



This
Posted by OSoBad
Member since Nov 2016
2007 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 9:23 pm to
6A is certainly future proofing but mostly unnecessary. 5E can handle gigabit which is the most anyone can have currently.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57457 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 12:35 am to
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6A is certainly future proofing but mostly unnecessary.
. Considering it costs the same there isn't a reason you shouldn't use it.
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35113 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 4:28 am to
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Considering it costs the same there isn't a reason you shouldn't use it.


What ?
Posted by OSoBad
Member since Nov 2016
2007 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 8:16 am to
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Considering it costs the same there isn't a reason you shouldn't use it.


5e is about a hundred bucks cheaper/thousand. Not sure where you get this.. Then the keystone jacks and patch panels are more. However, for a standard size home, whats a couple hundred of bucks?
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14965 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 8:42 am to
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5E can handle gigabit which is the most anyone can have currently



If you're looking at AV distribution over Ethernet and have cable runs over about 35 feet, the upgrade to cat6 may actually be worth it.

I have cat6a because i found a Monoprice spool of it for something like $90. It was cheaper than 5e. If I were doing it again, I'd run 5e just for the sheer number of holes I've had to drill in my top plate for the thicker cable. If this isn't an issue given the new home build status, it's not a big cost difference. You'll almost never likely actually see a performance difference. But you're paying $50-100 more which is probably trivial in the grand scheme of things.


Here is a chart I found helpful:

This is for plenum, but it's not that much different sized than riser-rated. Here you can see that if you drill a 1.25" hole in your top/drop plate, you will squeeze a 1" conduit through there. In your 1" conduit, you can fit 4 cat6a or 11 or 12 cat5e. Again, in the building phase this is easier to plan for, so maybe you can make it work. But it's something to think about and plan for. You'll probably never really justify the bump from 5e to 6a from a home performance perspective. I guess the scenario that's untrue is if you have a massive media server in a separate building 150-300ft away that you plan on streaming transcoded files from constantly. But outside of frequent massive file transfers or video-over-ethernet over long runs (eahch manufacturer tends to give the max cat5e length they recommend. Usually 10-30m), you should at least take cable thickness into consideration for the sake of your media closet's appearance.
Posted by OSoBad
Member since Nov 2016
2007 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:29 am to
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If you're looking at AV distribution over Ethernet and have cable runs over about 35 feet, the upgrade to cat6 may actually be worth it.


Totally agree, I am a AV design engineer and we use nothing less. We are starting to see a shift towards 7a for true 4k applications although most commercial businesses have no need or content.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57457 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:42 am to
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5e is about a hundred bucks cheaper/thousand.


1000' Cat5e 75$
1000' Cat6 95$ Which i have seen on special for cheaper.

1000' Cat6e 150$


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Then the keystone jacks and patch panels are more
they are the same arent that?
This post was edited on 6/10/19 at 9:44 am
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35561 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 2:01 pm to
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they are the same arent that?


No, they are not. They won't certify properly.
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