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re: More home automation crap going down forever

Posted on 3/10/20 at 11:56 am to
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/10/20 at 11:56 am to
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this is why you want everything on local control.

and you can have it with tasmota. im mvoing to a full Home Assistant setup where i can take advantage of all of this.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57951 posts
Posted on 3/10/20 at 11:57 am to
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to the other poster; anything that uses *WIFI* is cloud-based, period.
no so fast my friend...... read my previous post.
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
13141 posts
Posted on 3/10/20 at 2:10 pm to
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and you can have it with tasmota. im mvoing to a full Home Assistant setup where i can take advantage of all of this.

Asking another dumb question and relating it to my other dumb question about Apple HomeKit/HomePods. Don't HomePods in essence do this if you're controlling smart devices within your wifi?

Doesn't HomeKit/HomePod's stay within your wifi for home automation and only go "outside" if you ask it about the weather or whatever else that's an internet based query?
Or do I have that incorrect?

If that's true, there's a serious benefit for the security minded folks into joining HomeKit/HomePod, albeit Apple and super pricey.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86768 posts
Posted on 3/10/20 at 3:48 pm to
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Doesn't HomeKit/HomePod's stay within your wifi for home automation and only go "outside" if you ask it about the weather or whatever else that's an internet based query?


i thought all voice-controlled devices connected to the cloud to interpret what you just said because they lack the processing power to do it in a $20 dot.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57951 posts
Posted on 3/10/20 at 4:22 pm to
i do not know what apple stuff does. I can say it is probably isnt much. And im not positive but i doubt home kit can control a generic wifi bulb. If it can that bulb is definitely talking to its home server in the middle.

most of these bulbs/devices use the generic esp 8266 wifi chip. So programs like tasmota gets you to flash a new firmware on these chips to where it "calls home" but you are the home.
This post was edited on 3/10/20 at 4:23 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57951 posts
Posted on 3/10/20 at 4:27 pm to
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i thought all voice-controlled devices connected to the cloud to interpret what you just said because they lack the processing power to do it in a $20 dot.

yea from what i understand all google homes, alexas and whatever call to goole/amazon. what we are talking about is the bulb. so say you have this sylvania zigbee bulb connected to your smartthings. You tell your google home to turn on the bulb. the Google home sends google the voice, they interpret it and tells your smart things hub, becuase they are linked, to turn on the light. Well your smarththings hub connect to Sylvainas servers, because they are linked, to turn on the bulb. They send a signal to your home over internet when turnes the bulb on.

thats how i interpret what happens.
Posted by mctiger1985
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 3/10/20 at 6:02 pm to
Check your crap email, CAD
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86768 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 8:37 am to
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