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Posted on 1/25/23 at 6:32 pm
Posted by Seeing Grey
Member since Sep 2015
753 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 6:32 pm
I had an issue with getting windows 10 to boot, I believe it turned out to be an old CPU gone bad. I replaced the entire guts of the machine.

While I had the HD mostly backed up, there's a MySQL db on the old HD that would take me a few days minimum to rebuild, plus a few misc files I'd prefer to pull out.

I bought a SATA to USB adapter and the new computer isn't reading the old HD.

Google hasn't been much help on this. Are my efforts better spent on rebuilding the DB, or are they better spent trying to retrieve it from the old HD?
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18697 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 7:06 pm to
Do you know that the SATA->USB adapter works? Have you tried another SATA drive successfully with the adapter?

What do you mean by "not reading the old HD"? Just that no drive letter comes up? Does the device appear in Device Manager? Does a disk show up in Disk Management (even if it's showing as uninitialized)?

Does the drive spin up? Does the drive making a clicking noise?
Posted by Seeing Grey
Member since Sep 2015
753 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

Do you know that the SATA->USB adapter works? Have you tried another SATA drive successfully with the adapter?


Brand new adapter. I have not tried it with another drive. The light is coming on on the adapter, on my Linux PC, a sound is made when it's plugged in. Similarly on a windows machine I can see the hard drive is connected. I can not access the files on either machine.

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Does the drive spin up? Does the drive making a clicking noise?


Does not feel like it's spinning up, if so, it's very quiet.

Thanks
Posted by 3Son
1st Son in present times
Member since Jan 2017
2387 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 8:06 pm to
There is an old trick that works sometimes, but you have to be real fast and ready to trasnfer.

put the old drive in a freezer for about an hour or 2. have all else ready when you take it out and try to access the drive, copy any files as fast as you can.

might have to do this 2-3 times. worked for me once for a couple of files.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18697 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 8:31 pm to
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Does not feel like it's spinning up, if so, it's very quiet.


If you can't feel/hear it spinning up, then the drive might not be getting enough power. Which adapter are you using and how is it powered? If it's just bus powered with no extra power cable, it might not be receiving enough power to power a 3.5" desktop hard drive.

If the adapter is OK and the power is OK and it's not spinning up at all, it's probably beyond easy repair at home.

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on a windows machine I can see the hard drive is connected. I can not access the files on either machine.


Where are you seeing a hard drive is connected? In Device Manager (which means a disk controller is found)? In Disk Management (which means the controller detected a drive device)? In Explorer (which means a filesystem was read on the drive)? If in Explorer, what is the error message you're seeing when trying to access things? "I can see the hard drive" and "I can not access the files" are ambiguous, we need to figure out where there's a problem before we can determine what to do about it (or if we can).
Posted by Seeing Grey
Member since Sep 2015
753 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 8:55 pm to
quote:

If the adapter is OK and the power is OK and it's not spinning up at all, it's probably beyond easy repair at home.


I plugged it directly into my 650w PSU and there is no noticeable spinning. I think you answered the question, needs professional repair which isn't necessary.

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Where are you seeing a hard drive is connected? In Device Manager (which means a disk controller is found)? In Disk Management (which means the controller detected a drive device)? In Explorer (which means a filesystem was read on the drive)?


It was visible in the device manager, if I right clicked the drive, there was a browse files option. However, the D: disk option under browse files was greyed out.

Thanks
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28997 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:53 pm to
Sorry if this is a dumb question OP, but this is a spinning disk HDD and not an SSD, correct?
Posted by Seeing Grey
Member since Sep 2015
753 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:00 pm to
quote:

Sorry if this is a dumb question OP, but this is a spinning disk HDD and not an SSD, correct?


Not a dumb question, its actually a hybrid drive (SSHD). Not sure how that would affect things, but I imagine since it has a spinning portion, it should spin up?
This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 10:01 pm
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18697 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:07 pm to
Ok, that makes more sense, I was very confused because if it doesn't spin up there should be no way for Windows to even know that there's a partition on it containing the D: drive, but since it's a hybrid drive, it's obviously reading some data from the drive.

I honestly don't know if those drives are made to spin up automatically or not. I'd imagine they still do, though.
Posted by Seeing Grey
Member since Sep 2015
753 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:15 pm to
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I honestly don't know if those drives are made to spin up automatically or not. I'd imagine they still do, though.


From some googling, they are supposed to spin up on start.

Apparently, these particular drives are difficult even for professionals to recover data from. On to the freezer hail mary and then to rebuilding the DB...
Posted by jambrous
Member since Jun 2010
505 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 12:31 am to
300 dollar data recovery

I used these people to recover an hdd for me a couple of years ago. Super good people. I thought it might be a scam due to the price but they are really great at communicating every step of the process from the time you send the drive in to the time they send it back. Can't say enough good about them. If you have it recovered please do yourself a favor and contact them.
This post was edited on 1/26/23 at 12:32 am
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
86485 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 12:46 pm to
Highly recommend EaseUS. It’s an awesome program and free for the most part unless you’re trying to salvage all your files

I used it to extract stuff on a deleted drive and also on a non functioning drive. Highly recommend
Posted by Wilson
Metairie
Member since Jul 2011
295 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 7:30 am to
If the drive was fine before this, then it's the adapter. It's not providing power to the drive. I have a usb sata adapter that works fine with my laptop hard drives but won't work on a full size desktop drive. I have to use an old adapter from an external hard drive that has to be plugged into a wall outlet for power.

Usually a new computer has more than one internal sata connection, sometimes even on the same wire. Can you plug it up inside the computer next to the stock drive using the stock cable? If I remember correctly though, I think you somehow have to make the partition a passive drive so that it doesn't try to boot up from it.
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