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re: ATT Fiber internet router or use your own router with IP passthrough. - UPDATE

Posted on 2/20/18 at 10:13 am to
Posted by LordSnow
Your Mom's House
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 10:13 am to
I didnt do anything else. Other than hard wiring a second puck in.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57940 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 10:31 am to
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That not too bad
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ATT wireless AP
what wireless AP are you talking about? the WiFi on the router?
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57940 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 10:31 am to
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doesn't care if it's down/up @ 600mbps or 150mbps.

I do.


I might have to retry with my Nighthawk. I know they have been releasing new firmwares. but they havent dont goo things with the router.

Im actually planning on turning off the auto 5ghz/2.5ghz feature. It is fricking up some of my stuff.
This post was edited on 2/20/18 at 10:33 am
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
22809 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 11:42 am to
If anyone else is interested, I went with a Unifi UAP-AC-Lite.

LINK

I have it plugged straight into the ATT Pace router. Not only have my wifi disconnect issues stopped, but my 5GHz download speeds have probably doubled compared to the 5Ghz download speeds of the Pace built-in wifi.
This post was edited on 2/20/18 at 11:44 am
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57940 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 12:46 pm to
I have the Long Range and i could not get decent speeds and it has to be ran by a server. 2 things i didnt like.
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
22809 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 3:29 pm to
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and it has to be ran by a server


Only for initial setup. The AP runs independent of the server after that.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57940 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 3:41 pm to
That wasn't my experience.

I see you can have remote management.but idk if I want that.
This post was edited on 2/21/18 at 3:47 pm
Posted by FCP
Delta State Univ. - Fightin' Okra
Member since Sep 2010
4997 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:33 pm to
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So still any geeks know id a nighthawk r7000's router ability is better than the BGW210? Should i ip passthrough or just use the nighthawk as the wifi AP?

The 5268 and 210 are pretty similar in wifi performance, though all things considered, I've found the 210 gives marginally better service than the 5268. From my experience (ATT tech 4+ years) they're both close in actual field performance, and I've been able to run around the 700x700 range over wifi on a gigabit profile with both models.

For customers who want to use their own router, I usually don't even mess around with IP Passthrough. I'll put their router in AP mode, connect it directly behind ours, and 95 times out of 100 it'll run fine without any further configuration.

I think BottleGnome covered it already, but the BGW-210 is having some firmware issues, and, IIRC, auto updates have been turned off until a solution is found.

Re someone above who mentioned their devices losing the 5Ghz connection: You may try splitting the 2.4 and 5.0 bands--giving each its own name. By default, they have the same name/password. We've found client devices are quick to roll from 5.0 down to 2.4, but many times they have problems rolling back up from 2.4 to 5. Practically, if you walk down the driveway with your iPhone, it'll roll down to 2.4 but fail to jump back to 5.0 when you get back within range inside. Splitting the bands and connecting your TV to only the 5.0 signal should alleviate some of those problems.
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
22809 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 7:55 pm to
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Re someone above who mentioned their devices losing the 5Ghz connection: You may try splitting the 2.4 and 5.0 bands--giving each its own name. By default, they have the same name/password. We've found client devices are quick to roll from 5.0 down to 2.4, but many times they have problems rolling back up from 2.4 to 5. Practically, if you walk down the driveway with your iPhone, it'll roll down to 2.4 but fail to jump back to 5.0 when you get back within range inside. Splitting the bands and connecting your TV to only the 5.0 signal should alleviate some of those problems.


I did run mine like that. I had the normal name for the 2.4 band SSID and a 5Ghz tacked into the 5 band SSID. The disconnects were so bad that they made internet borderline unusable.
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
13140 posts
Posted on 2/23/18 at 9:08 am to
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I did run mine like that. I had the normal name for the 2.4 band SSID and a 5Ghz tacked into the 5 band SSID. The disconnects were so bad that they made internet borderline unusable.

Same. What's weird is the only device that was constantly disconnecting was my Samsung Q7F TV, the most important device in my house.

I got the Google Wifi 3 puck system last weekend and everything is resolved now. I do think that the TV's IPv6 is acting weird though for streaming TV so I simply disabled it. But that still doesn't explain why it was always dropping off the selected 5ghz band that I specified the TV to use. When I chose the 2.4ghz band, it never dropped.

Something is up with that router (ATT's Arris one). Me using the Google Wifi router and seeing that the TV is connected to the 5ghz band ALL THE TIME with 0 drops confirms it for me.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57940 posts
Posted on 2/23/18 at 11:02 am to
yea im splitting the 2.4 and 5 g signals
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57940 posts
Posted on 2/23/18 at 11:05 am to
quote:

For customers who want to use their own router, I usually don't even mess around with IP Passthrough. I'll put their router in AP mode, connect it directly behind ours, and 95 times out of 100 it'll run fine without any further configuration.
right, when i started this thread months ago i was wondering which had better routing capability. But now im lazy and know im not routing 1000 devices.

Now i just need to decived should i AP my R7000 nighthawk or use the Ubiquiti Long Range AP.
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
13140 posts
Posted on 2/23/18 at 11:23 am to
So I put my Arris (ATT Router) in IP Passthrough mode and then hooked up my google wifi to the Arris. Should I have done something differently?

Also, I may cancel ATT Uverse TV soon. Does the DVR and 2 wireless receivers for ATT UVerse eat up a lot of bandwidth? I'm wondering if my home internet speed will get better by removing those 3 devices from the network.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57940 posts
Posted on 2/23/18 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

So I put my Arris (ATT Router) in IP Passthrough mode and then hooked up my google wifi to the Arris. Should I have done something differently?
well you might have cut your wireless bandwith in half. you should test.
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Also, I may cancel ATT Uverse TV soon. Does the DVR and 2 wireless receivers for ATT UVerse eat up a lot of bandwidth? I'm wondering if my home internet speed will get better by removing those 3 devices from the network.

whats speed are you paying for and what are you getting? i mean if you pay for 10, sure it will improve your traffic, but if you pay for gigbit, you shouldnt need to improve speed cause you have plenty of capacity

Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
13140 posts
Posted on 2/23/18 at 8:08 pm to
I have gigabit. I am getting anywhere from 400-600 or so mvps on the main google WiFi puck.
Speedtest apps on my phone range anywhere from 100-250mbps usually.
How do I do something else with my arris other than pass through mode to ensure the fastest WiFi?
Posted by nino2469
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2004
5529 posts
Posted on 5/28/18 at 5:57 pm to
I tried this and I cannot get the public ip to passthrough to my Nighthawk router. I am still only getting speeds at 250MB.

I have the wire from the ATT router to the internet port and then the router is in router mode. Is that correct?
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57940 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 11:28 pm to
Oh my old thread. Like I said I gave up trying. I don't NEED a better router right now so it isn't top priority. Read the links that I have put in this thread to answer your questions.
Posted by bengalman
In da Country
Member since Feb 2007
3806 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 7:29 am to
Still waiting on that promised fiber from AT&T for the last 2 years now...enjoying my 50mbps
Posted by zibberfitchy
Member since Jun 2018
6 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 6:35 pm to
I ordered the new BGW210-700 for my AT&T Fiber 1000 service to replace the Pace router. Should I enable or disable IPV6?
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57940 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 12:02 am to
Bump for all those people asking about att fiber with other routers. This is old and I haven't tried anything new.

Some people say they are getting 600mbps in pass through with Google WiFi. I mean that's ok I guess but you are only getting 60% of what you pay for.
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