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Another home speaker wiring discussion
Posted on 5/28/19 at 9:26 am
Posted on 5/28/19 at 9:26 am
Moved to new house about a week ago. Seller was a widow and had no idea how anything worked. Here's what I got.
Ceiling speakers in master(2), living room(4), and kitchen(2). Patio has Bose outdoors that are visible. Volume controls for Master, kitchen and patio. None for living. Here's where it gets weird.
The first bundle of wires I found all have red/black/green/white. Two sets had writing on them: patio and master. These work. I have not made any of the other sets(4 maybe?) make sound.
In the same box, I found a second set of wires. These we 4 in number and all just black/red. These made my living room speakers work.
Not even sure what questions to ask. Think this was a redo at some point? Think I can get in the attic to where the kitchen ones are and diagnose the problem with those. Any idea what the non-labeled wires do if anything?
Ceiling speakers in master(2), living room(4), and kitchen(2). Patio has Bose outdoors that are visible. Volume controls for Master, kitchen and patio. None for living. Here's where it gets weird.
The first bundle of wires I found all have red/black/green/white. Two sets had writing on them: patio and master. These work. I have not made any of the other sets(4 maybe?) make sound.
In the same box, I found a second set of wires. These we 4 in number and all just black/red. These made my living room speakers work.
Not even sure what questions to ask. Think this was a redo at some point? Think I can get in the attic to where the kitchen ones are and diagnose the problem with those. Any idea what the non-labeled wires do if anything?
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 9:45 am to AlxTgr
LOL, sounds like a holy mess.
I believe I'd call Trotter's, start all over...
I believe I'd call Trotter's, start all over...
Posted on 5/28/19 at 9:59 am to RichJ
quote:Pretty sure that's who did this
I believe I'd call Trotter's, start all over...
Posted on 5/28/19 at 3:56 pm to AlxTgr
Buy a test tone generator. Remove one of the kitchen speakers and connect the tone generator to it. Use the tone wand to locate the other end. They should be where your patio and master bedroom cables are. They may be buried behind the wall plate those cables come out of.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 3:58 pm to AlxTgr
In a previous post you said the kitchen, patio and master have volume controls. Tone from the volume control location in the kitchen back to the head end. I suspect that the volume control in the kitchen has gone bad and that’s why you aren’t getting sound to the speakers. That or the volume on that volume control is turned all the way down.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 4:12 pm to VABuckeye
quote:Thanks! Never thought of that. I will try to open that up soon. Pretty sure it's not because it's turned down because the others that work are turned all the way right at full volume, and so I did that to the kitchen one.
I suspect that the volume control in the kitchen has gone bad and that’s why you aren’t getting sound to the speakers. That or the volume on that volume control is turned all the way down.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 4:47 pm to VABuckeye
quote:
Buy a test tone generator
Posted on 5/28/19 at 6:17 pm to VABuckeye
Just removed kitchen volume control deal. Nothing was connected. There are 3 reds, 3 blacks, a white and a green.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 3:06 pm to AlxTgr
Used a AA battery to find out which wires behind kitchen volume control go to the speakers. Now have to figure out which wires go from den to kitchen, and there's a lot of them.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 4:34 pm to AlxTgr
Halfway there. You’re learning troubleshooting. Pretty soon you won’t need us. Cheers!
Posted on 5/30/19 at 9:20 am to VABuckeye
A guy let me borrow his tone deal. Cannot find where the extra wires go. 
Going to go into attic soon and see if I can find the nearest of the kitchen speakers and see if anything is going into it.
Going to go into attic soon and see if I can find the nearest of the kitchen speakers and see if anything is going into it.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 9:39 am to AlxTgr
The volume control wasn't connected so it wouldn't surprise me if no connection was made to the speakers in that room. You should's have to go into the attic. The speakers will be removable from below.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 10:18 am to VABuckeye
quote:But there's an extra set of the kind with red/black/white/green in the same kitchen box as the red/black that go to each kitchen speaker. I would think those go somewhere i can track and hopefully attcah to my splitter thingie.
The volume control wasn't connected so it wouldn't surprise me if no connection was made to the speakers in that room
quote:No idea how to attack this. Does the little molding come off? Twist? Maybe I should check youtube?
The speakers will be removable from below.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 3:07 pm to AlxTgr
One set goes to the home run. The others go to the speakers. Four conductors to each. You should be able to tone four wires to the head end. If one set comes from below and one goes up it will be easy to distinguish between the two pairs of speaker wire.
Take a tiny screwdriver and remove the grills. Once you remove the grill you’ll have access to the mounting screws from below. It may take a little trial and error but you’ll get them. Glad to help.
Take a tiny screwdriver and remove the grills. Once you remove the grill you’ll have access to the mounting screws from below. It may take a little trial and error but you’ll get them. Glad to help.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 10:55 am to VABuckeye
Update. I must have been doing something wrong before, as I tried again, and found the run from kitchen to the rest of the wires. I connected to the old volume control and bam, now have the kitchen set running. Only issue is, I have one more set of speakers than I have outputs on my monoprice selector. I think I'll just not use one of the pairs in the living room. May connect those to my other receiver in case I ever decide to use them with TV.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 1:17 pm to AlxTgr
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:26 am to VABuckeye
Last item...I think. So, the sound out of one speaker in the newly wired kitchen is spotty. Goes in and out, and that changes as I turn the dial on the volume control. Is that control going bad? The only one I can get locally looks to be this at Lowe's across the river. Is that ok to use or should I order something different?
Posted on 6/19/19 at 12:33 pm to AlxTgr
Sounds like a bad volume control which may be the reason the cables weren't connected to it.
This post was edited on 6/19/19 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 6/19/19 at 1:33 pm to VABuckeye
quote:Yeah, seems reasonable.
may be the reason the cables weren't connected to it.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 7:46 pm to AlxTgr
Try cleaning the volume pot with some contact cleaner...worth a try.
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