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re: ¡¡Transferapalooza!!
Posted on 7/8/11 at 4:29 am to adammwilson
Posted on 7/8/11 at 4:29 am to adammwilson
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the EPL is the top league isn't it?
It's the top league in terms of money, but English players have notoriously poor technique in comparison to other players in top leagues.
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Posted on 7/8/11 at 8:39 am to adammwilson
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Actually English players should look into going abroad now
Most wouldn't be able to survive in top leagues.
the EPL is the top league isn't it? Despite not having the #1 team.
Top league does not equal best at developing talent.
The top EPL teams for the most part cherry pick talent that was developed by other teams in other leagues- i.e. Chelsea, Man City, Spurs, to an extent United and Pool. The biggest exception is Arsenal which follows a much more continental model. Pool over the past 5-6 years has invested heavily in the academy and are starting to see results as well.
La Liga, Bundesliga, Ligue 1, Eredivise, etc. are much better at growing/developing talent.
This is one of the reasons the ENT has struggled and as a result the FA has pushed the EPL for the Home Grown rule.
Posted on 7/8/11 at 4:09 pm to crazy4lsu
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English players have notoriously poor technique in comparison to other players in top leagues.
yeah but that doesn't necessarily make them worse players just b/c it doesn't look as nice.
Posted on 7/8/11 at 4:10 pm to Cash
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Top league does not equal best at developing talent.
agreed
Posted on 7/8/11 at 4:15 pm to adammwilson
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yeah but that doesn't necessarily make them worse players just b/c it doesn't look as nice.
It kind of does.
Posted on 7/8/11 at 4:18 pm to hendersonshands
It absolutely does.
Posted on 7/8/11 at 4:23 pm to Friend of OBUDan
explain it.
Just because it's not as "pretty" doesn't mean it's the wrong way to play.
Just because it's not as "pretty" doesn't mean it's the wrong way to play.
Posted on 7/8/11 at 4:24 pm to adammwilson
It isn't as effective. If it was so effective, England would be dominating the world not Spain, Germany, and Netherlands.
Posted on 7/8/11 at 4:25 pm to hendersonshands
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If it was so effective, England would be dominating the world not Spain, Germany, and Netherlands.
coaching and players factor into it as well though.
Posted on 7/8/11 at 4:26 pm to adammwilson
Yeah, the players certainly factor into it. That's exactly what we're talking about.
Posted on 7/8/11 at 4:28 pm to hendersonshands
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Yeah, the players certainly factor into it. That's exactly what we're talking about.
right and I'm saying that just because they don't play as visually appealing doesn't necessarily mean they're worse players.
Posted on 7/8/11 at 4:30 pm to adammwilson
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right and I'm saying that just because they don't play as visually appealing doesn't necessarily mean they're worse players.
They are worse players though and technicality isn't just about beauty it's about efficiency too.
Posted on 7/8/11 at 4:34 pm to hendersonshands
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They are worse players though and technicality isn't just about beauty it's about efficiency too.
I know what you're saying. All I'm saying is that just because they're not as visually appealing too watch doesn't mean they can't be successful.
I'll take the soccer player who is solid and consistent than the one who is better technically but is inconsistent.
Posted on 7/8/11 at 4:38 pm to adammwilson
I'll take the player who is technically sound which leads to him consistently playing the right pass or taking a good first touch.
Posted on 7/8/11 at 4:41 pm to hendersonshands
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him consistently playing the right pass or taking a good first touch.
that's an issue that bothers me. England hasn't had a good midfield distributor. Scholes was in club play but for whatever reason was disappointing on the international level.
Posted on 7/8/11 at 4:42 pm to adammwilson
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England hasn't had a good midfield distributor.
BECAUSE THEY AREN'T AS TECHNICALITY SOUND.
Posted on 7/8/11 at 4:44 pm to hendersonshands
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BECAUSE THEY AREN'T AS Technically SOUND.
no excuse why they aren't.
Posted on 7/8/11 at 4:50 pm to adammwilson
I just think the argument is pretty poor.
There is no reason why a top U.K. player shouldn't succeed in another league. They succeed in the world's best (EPL- whether that is because of foreign players or not)
to me (and I may be wrong) it isn't even close that the EPL is the top league because of it's quality and depth.
There is no reason why a top U.K. player shouldn't succeed in another league. They succeed in the world's best (EPL- whether that is because of foreign players or not)
to me (and I may be wrong) it isn't even close that the EPL is the top league because of it's quality and depth.
Posted on 7/8/11 at 5:03 pm to adammwilson
I feel like I'm talking to a wall when I talk soccer with you.
Posted on 7/8/11 at 5:08 pm to hendersonshands
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I feel like I'm talking to a wall when I talk soccer with you.
probably because you keep saying the same thing without explaining it further.
You think other countries coach their players to be more technically sound thus making them better players then great but that isn't the be all end all of the conversation.
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