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re: My son got a BS red card. Board thoughts?
Posted on 8/20/18 at 8:17 am to Robin Masters
Posted on 8/20/18 at 8:17 am to Robin Masters
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Posted on 8/20/18 at 9:35 am to engvol
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The person who retaliates almost always get punished as bad if not worse than the initial offends because everybody always sees the retaliation. However your kid is 10, is he actually being banned for 3 games? That’s the most ridiculous thing in your post
Like I said several times, he didn’t retaliate. The other kid grabbed him around the neck/shoulder area with his left and then threw a wild haymaker with his right. My kid pushed him off of him and swung his right arm up to get the other kids left arm off his neck.
They were in the vicinity of the ball, was a throw in I think, so the AR and ref should have seen the entire thing.
All I can think is they misinterpreted my kids effort of trying to get away as “violent conduct”.
Also everything I’ve read about “retaliation” typically has to do with two separate incidents. Like you have a guy who makes s hard slide tackle and then next time he gets the ball he gets s forearm to the face. Our incident was all part of one event.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 9:38 am to Mr Personality
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r Personality Dear Facebook
I asked several questions in OP which was the reason for my post. GFY and get original material while you are at it.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 9:44 am to Robin Masters
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Also everything I’ve read about “retaliation” typically has to do with two separate incidents.
No.Posted on 8/20/18 at 9:53 am to pvilleguru
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No.
Just telling you what I read. Also,no one refers to getting away from someone’s clutches “retaliation”.
I don’t think you can argue that retaliation is inherently a distinct and separate action from the incident to which you are retaliating. And furthermore retaliation is offensive in nature NOT defensive.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 10:26 am to Robin Masters
I’m sure you made an arse of yourself in front of everybody soccer Dad
Posted on 8/20/18 at 10:37 am to Robin Masters
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Also,no one refers to getting away from someone’s clutches “retaliation”.
Sure they do. Happens all the time.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 10:41 am to Mr Personality
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I’m sure you made an arse of yourself in front of everybody soccer Dad
Not nearly as much of one as you are making of yourself in this thread.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 10:41 am to Robin Masters
Imagine caring this much about a 10-year-olds soccer game
Posted on 8/20/18 at 10:42 am to Robin Masters
Has the club appealed the suspension? Did they take his players card?
Y'all play in NOLA this weekend? We've had some sketchy refs there.
Y'all play in NOLA this weekend? We've had some sketchy refs there.
This post was edited on 8/20/18 at 10:48 am
Posted on 8/20/18 at 10:45 am to McCaigBro69
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Imagine caring this much about a 10-year-olds soccer game
Right because caring so much about pro soccer games that have zero bearing on you life or anyone you know is so much better.
It’s my kid, of course I care. Doesn’t matter the age or the sport.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 10:45 am to pvilleguru
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Sure they do. Happens all the time.
Cool. I couldn’t find any scenarios on Google that dealt with this type of retaliation. They all were hypothetical situations where someone committed a hard foul or violent conduct as payback for a previous hard foul. If you can find one that deals with retaliation in a fight setting I’d love to see it. Should be hard to find I assume if they happen as frequently as you say.
This post was edited on 8/20/18 at 10:50 am
Posted on 8/20/18 at 10:55 am to Gaston
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Has the club appealed the suspension? Did they take his players card? Y'all play in NOLA this weekend? We've had some sketchy refs there.
The tournament had a “no protest” policy so we can’t protest the call. I’m not certain he will be suspended additional games and no one connected to the tournament or our soccer club has suggested he will. My BILA, who is a former ref said that could happen IF it was written up as “violent conduct”.
Given that it was an out of state tournament I think we are just going to play this weekend unless instructed otherwise.
No we are not in NO this weekend. The refs could have done a better job but they are young. I more blame the other teams coach for talking the refs into giving my kid a red when they obviously didn’t see it when it supposedly occurred.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:07 am to Robin Masters
My son's friend had a two yellow - red, and they pulled his players card for the finals of that tournament...but nothing happened after that.
Our experience is that the better teams play cleaner, hopefully you won't see that too much in the A, or gold, brackets.
Jackson last weekend, Hattiesburg this weekend...the joys of soccer season.
Our experience is that the better teams play cleaner, hopefully you won't see that too much in the A, or gold, brackets.
Jackson last weekend, Hattiesburg this weekend...the joys of soccer season.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:07 am to Robin Masters
From what you said, it's really hard to say and it depends on what the refs saw. If they gave the other kid a red first, then they clearly saw what he did. Depending on the angle that the refs had, your sons actions may have looked more aggressive / violent than defensive. It sucks, but that's just how it goes sometimes. I think I only received one or two reds my whole life, and one was for "taunting" the other team because I was laughing after a goal (because of how ridiculous the manner was that my teammate scored). It was total BS but crap happens and you just have to realize that 15 and 20 year old refs (and older) are going to make mistakes that can cost you big.
If I did notice a pattern with a particular ref over several games, then I'd try to take video and file a complaint with that ref's association.
If I did notice a pattern with a particular ref over several games, then I'd try to take video and file a complaint with that ref's association.
This post was edited on 8/20/18 at 11:10 am
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:08 am to Robin Masters
If something happens to you and you react back at the other player, then it's retaliating. It happens in football, basketball, soccer, etc. This isn't hard.
And I doubt they did anything strictly based on anything the other coach said. You're taking this decision by an inexperienced crew probably too hard.
And I doubt they did anything strictly based on anything the other coach said. You're taking this decision by an inexperienced crew probably too hard.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:10 am to SUB
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Depending on the angle that the refs had, your sons actions may have looked more aggressive / violent than defensive. It sucks, but that's just how it goes sometimes
It's really that simple.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:10 am to Gaston
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ur experience is that the better teams play cleaner, hopefully you won't see that too much in the A, or gold, brackets.
Exactly this! And They don’t get as frustrated either when getting beat technically which is what is happening here.
We’re you the poster that was looking into Southern States club? Did you ever check it out? What were your thoughts?
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:14 am to pvilleguru
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It's really that simple.
I understand and I that’s ultimately what I explained to my kid but I was having a hard time finding what to tell him to do if he’s grabbed/assaluted again.
I ultimately said defend yourself first and foremost, we’ll worry about cards later. Of course I added if you need to defend yourself with a punch then you at least better make it worth while and beat his arse. Don’t burn a red just trying to get away.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:17 am to Robin Masters
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Of course I added if you need to defend yourself with a punch then you at least better make it worth while and beat his arse. Don’t burn a red just trying to get away
If you "beat his arse", you're probably looking at a lengthy suspension if you aren't banned.
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