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re: Barcelona Sign Their First American
Posted on 6/9/11 at 6:44 am to NOTORlOUSD
Posted on 6/9/11 at 6:44 am to NOTORlOUSD
quote:Messi was eleven when they latched on to him.
The Barca Academy knows what they're doing, but ten years old?!?
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Posted on 6/9/11 at 7:16 am to SlowFlowPro
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are his parents from spain?
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Lederman
Yeah, they left the country in 1490 or so.
This post was edited on 6/9/11 at 7:18 am
Posted on 6/9/11 at 7:24 am to Dandy Lion
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Yeah, they left the country in 1490 or so.
Hopefully this kid and Schellas Hyndman's kid boss our midfield for years to come.
Posted on 6/9/11 at 8:01 am to LfcSU3520
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The lack of forward progress is what bothers me most about Bob.
Except for finishing first outright in WC qualifying for the first time, competing in a FIFA final for the first time, and winning our World Cup group for the first time.
But other than those inconsequential things, you're right. No progress.
This post was edited on 6/9/11 at 8:04 am
Posted on 6/9/11 at 8:08 am to joost2006
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officials, going after young boys, alledged ineligible players, coaching carousels, paying reps to have games played in your place, too many tattoos, too much money... all for a start...
That's just a result of the times. Information is more easily obtainable. Scouts are a little more expensive than YouTube, which is only six years old.
Posted on 6/9/11 at 8:11 am to Dalosaqy
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Not seeing it.
Me either. The team looks damn good, but none of them really stand out that much to me. Then again, Barca officials know a little more about developing and recognizing talent than I do. :)
Posted on 6/9/11 at 8:48 am to crazy4lsu
Crazy for LSU, I think you mean Hyndman's grandson. Also, in regards to 3four3, I think his points about development are spot on. We really need to revamp our system, because it is terrible at spotting and developing our best talent. I think Klinsmann would have done this but Sunil wouldn't go for it (idiot).
Posted on 6/9/11 at 8:55 am to cwil177
You're right. Klinsmann's plan would have done away with a lot of the jobs held by the "good ol' boy" network that's in place now, so a lot of Gulati's cronies would be out of a job.
Posted on 6/9/11 at 9:01 am to cwil177
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Except for finishing first outright in WC qualifying for the first time, competing in a FIFA final for the first time, and winning our World Cup group for the first time. But other than those inconsequential things, you're right. No progress.
First in WC Qualifying = Last second Bornstein goal
Playing in FIFA Final = Miraculous 3-0 Italy loss and 3-0 US Win
First in WC Group = Last second Donovan goal, poor play by England
How did Bob's coaching accomplish any of those things?
Posted on 6/9/11 at 9:33 am to NOTORlOUSD
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First in WC Qualifying = Last second Bornstein goal
Playing in FIFA Final = Miraculous 3-0 Italy loss and 3-0 US Win
First in WC Group = Last second Donovan goal, poor play by England
How did Bob's coaching accomplish any of those things?
So we aren't looking for results, we're looking for PRETTY results. Just like Spain, Brazil and Argentina?
Headline: Saints win Super Bowl after one of NFL greatest quarterbacks in history makes mistake.
2010 Super Champs - New Orleans Saints*
* not really, though. I mean, they lost the last three games of the regular season. Then they had to go to overtime to beat the Vikings. And they were at home. The crowd had more to do with it than anything. Can we REALLY say they won the Super Bowl, or were they HANDED the Super Bowl?
Bradley was hired to produce results. He produced results. I'm sorry he didn't play "your" guys to do it, or didn't win pretty enough for your tastes.
In fact, I imagine he was given a list of objectives when he was hired.
- Win Gold Cup 2007
- Make a competitive showing in Confederations Cup 2009 (I'd guess he was given third place as a benchmark)
- Finish first in Qualifying
- Finish First in WC Group
- Win first knockout game
I can't think of any other metrics he could have been graded by.
He accomplished 4 out of the 5, and went to extra time in the fifth.
What more do you want? Do you think we would have won the World Cup with any other coach? Would we have gone undefeated in World Cup qualifying? Beat Mexico 4-0 at Azteca?
This post was edited on 6/9/11 at 9:37 am
Posted on 6/9/11 at 9:47 am to Sheep
Blaming Bradley for our style of play is like blaming Obama for the national debt. Goes back a long way. He can only do the best with what he's got.
Not that I have any particular feelings toward Obama, one way or the other.
Not that I have any particular feelings toward Obama, one way or the other.
Posted on 6/9/11 at 10:23 am to Stewie Griffin
Best thing Bradley did was find a woman capable of gifting him with Baby. Kid is for real.
Posted on 6/9/11 at 11:11 am to Dandy Lion
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What more do you want? Do you think we would have won the World Cup with any other coach? Would we have gone undefeated in World Cup qualifying? Beat Mexico 4-0 at Azteca?
I think just about anyone could have coached us out of that World Cup group. My problem with Bob is that he never has the team ready to play from the start and we always seem to be a goal or two down at halftime against good teams; in our four World Cup games, that problem manifested itself three times. We could have easily beaten Ghana and advanced if our team had been ready to go at kickoff. Anything beyond that is a question mark, of course.
This post was edited on 6/9/11 at 11:12 am
Posted on 6/9/11 at 12:12 pm to NOTORlOUSD
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My problem with Bob is that he never has the team ready to play from the start and we always seem to be a goal or two down at halftime against good teams
2007
Denmark 1-1 H
Mexico 0-1 H
Argentina 1-1 H
Paraguay 1-1 H
Brazil 1-1 H
Sweden 0-0 H
Switzerland 0-0 H
2008
Sweden 1-0 H
Mexico 2-1 H
England 0-1 H
Spain 0-0 H
Argentina 0-0 H
2009
Sweden 2-0 H
Mexico 1-0 H
Italy 1-0 H
Brazil 0-2 H
Spain 1-0 H
Brazil 2-0 H
Mexico 0-0 H
@Mexico 1-1 H
Slovakia 0-1 H
Denmark 1-0 H
2010
Netherlands 0-1 H
Turkey 0-1 H
Australia 2-1 H
England 1-1 H
Ghana 0-1 H
Brazil 0-0 H
2011
Chile 0-0 H
Argentina 0-1 H
Paraguay 0-1 H
Spain 0-3 H
The numbers don't really back up your argument.
Here's halftime scores for all of our matches against Top 30 FIFA ranked opponents during the Bradley era. Of course, it's flawed. There's friendlies, tournaments with B teams, etc. thrown in there. But you have to start somewhere.
Anyway, that's a -4 goal differential, with 3 of that -4 coming in the Spain friendly.
We've played six teams in the top 10, and our most heated rival 19 teams. It's your expectation that we should be getting the jump on these teams more often than not, correct?
There's no reason, we can't be up on Spain, Brazil, Argentina with regularity?
Posted on 6/9/11 at 12:33 pm to Sheep
The fact that Bradley doesn't play Dempsey as a false nine every single game tells me all I need to know about his in-game tactics... Do I think he's doing a good job? Most of the time. Do I think he screwed the fans in the Spain friendly? Yes. Do I think he will ever make it to a World Cup final? No.
Posted on 6/9/11 at 12:34 pm to Sheep
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So we aren't looking for results, we're looking for PRETTY results. Just like Spain, Brazil and Argentina?
Anything we can do to be like Spain, Brazil, and Argentina is a good thing. They wouldn't be where they are today if they didn't care about PRETTY results.
quote:
Headline: Saints win Super Bowl after one of NFL greatest quarterbacks in history makes mistake.
You're comparing the NFL to international soccer? WTF.
Posted on 6/9/11 at 12:34 pm to ChemE in the OP
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The fact that Bradley doesn't play Dempsey as a false nine every single game tells me all I need to know about his in-game tactics... Do I think he's doing a good job? Most of the time. Do I think he screwed the fans in the Spain friendly? Yes. Do I think he will ever make it to a World Cup final? No.
Dempsey does better for 30 minutes as a striker than he does for 90 minutes. Plus you're the guy who said Mario Gomez had supplanted Miroslav Klose for the German National team, which is wrong.
Posted on 6/9/11 at 12:36 pm to ChemE in the OP
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The fact that Bradley doesn't play Dempsey as a false nine every single game tells me all I need to know about his in-game tactics
Da frick? Dempsey thrives where he is.
The fact that you think Dempsey should play a false nine tells me all I need to know about your knowledge of the game.
quote:
Do I think he screwed the fans in the Spain friendly? Yes
How? He didn't schedule that stupid fricking game. He rested his best players, and they played superbly in the game that actually mattered. frick the Spain friendly. I don't give a shite about Spain. I give a shite about stomping Mexico and winning our tournament.
This post was edited on 6/9/11 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 6/9/11 at 12:36 pm to hendersonshands
quote:
Plus you're the guy who said Mario Gomez had supplanted Miroslav Klose for the German National team, which is wrong.
So, you think Klose will start in Euro 2012 games over Gomez?
Posted on 6/9/11 at 12:37 pm to ChemE in the OP
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So, you think Klose will start in Euro 2012 games over Gomez?
If he's healthy, yes.
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