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re: 2014/2015 Winter Transfer Thread

Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:30 pm to
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:30 pm to
exactly, they aren't someone who has billions of dollars to just blow... this is still a business. I remember reading a lot of that loss was paying off some of that debt that H&G built up... They have also been very good about cutting our wage bill in the past couple of years too, that plays in to FFP. We earned the most TV money this past season and with the stadium and new sponsorship deals, the future is bright...
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:31 pm to
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Y'all have spent more than us and have sold no one...



False we have sold someone

you have not correct me if im wrong

once again stop ignoring the facts you guys can not be like the last two years. Both teams will sell players.

Both teams will have to splash this summer. Difference is we can splurge this summer and not have FFP sanction depending.
This post was edited on 6/27/14 at 4:34 pm
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
9963 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:34 pm to
unfortunately, ManU operates on an entirely different financial playing field than the rest of us. they could spend 100m annually net annually and still probably be alright. could spend even more if they cared at all about paying down the debt the glazers used to acquire the club. instead they just give themselves bonuses.
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
9963 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:36 pm to
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False we have sold someone


buttner for a couple quid...gotcha LFC fans!
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:38 pm to
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could spend even more if they cared at all about paying down the debt the glazers used to acquire the club


meh the debt has been cut big time and should be gone soon

It still pissed me off they did that buying the club than throwing all that debt on the club which had none.

We still operate in the black every year so the debt will be gone.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:40 pm to
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buttner for a couple quid...gotcha LFC fans!



hey he said no one

Buttner claiming he was MOTM 15 times as unreal. We will unload some guys for sure in the next month on LvG actually gets in town.
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
23622 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:40 pm to
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once again stop ignoring the facts you guys can not be like the last two years


I see your point, we were out of control last summer

Luis Alberto £6,800,000
Iago Aspas £7,000,000
Simon Mignolet £9,000,000
Tiago Ilori £7,000,000
Mamadou Sakho £15,000,000
Kolo Touré Free

Didn't spend a dime this past January...
This post was edited on 6/27/14 at 4:41 pm
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
23622 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:41 pm to
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buttner for a couple quid...gotcha LFC fans!


That damn site you linked, isn't updated!
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:42 pm to
You guys still operated at a 90 million pound loss from 2011 to 2013.

Do I think you will be hit with FFP? No

but stop having your head in the sand.
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
9963 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:43 pm to
i'm not sure it's actually official, and the fee was undisclosed, but it's at least all but a done deal.
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
23622 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

unfortunately, ManU operates on an entirely different financial playing field than the rest of us.


I dont disagree and I wouldn't come on this board suggesting to know their financial state as it relates to FFP
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
9963 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:44 pm to
you have to understand EBITDA and that shite to get that
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:45 pm to
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i'm not sure it's actually official, and the fee was undisclosed, but it's at least all but a done deal.



Buttner?

we won't know i guess for a while
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
9963 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:46 pm to
he's said he's gone, but it's not official. so i guess you haven't technically sold anyone yet
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
23622 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:46 pm to
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but stop having your head in the sand.


I said I'm not concerned... they will get it right.. what else is their to say?

I know you love trying to shite on the LFC supporters optimism... LS, FFP... it doesn't work, but I'm sure you'll have something new next week.. I'm looking forward to it!

Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:48 pm to
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I know you love trying to shite on the LFC supporters optimism... LS, FFP... it doesn't work, but I'm sure you'll have something new next week.. I'm looking forward to it!



How is bringing up FFP shiting on your optimism when talking about who you would sell to balance out the books. frick man you are defensive. Its a legit talking point.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:49 pm to
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he's said he's gone, but it's not official. so i guess you haven't technically sold anyone yet



He ran from LvG before he could even get there still bitter b/c he doesn't get called up
This post was edited on 6/27/14 at 4:49 pm
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
23622 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:52 pm to
well, we have loaned Luis Alberto to Malaga for £1mm.. so we're making progress balancing those books, we appreciate your concern!!
Posted by svb
Missouri Fan
Member since Jun 2012
3127 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:10 pm to
SKC are about to sign Jorge Claros, Honduras midfielder.

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LINK - Fabian Johnson, Barcelona target?
This post was edited on 6/27/14 at 6:11 pm
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
23622 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:13 pm to
Usually has good info regarding LFC

quote:

Tony Barrett

Luis Suárez appears to be heading inexorably towards an Anfield exit after Barcelona resolved to sign the controversial forward despite his four-month ban for biting Giorgio Chiellini, the Italy defender, in an incident that has overshadowed the World Cup.
The Barcelona hierarchy held talks in the aftermath of Suárez’s suspension to establish whether or not to continue their pursuit of him, and Luis Enrique, the club’s coach, is understood to have held sway with a passionate appraisal of the qualities that the 27-year-old would bring to the team.
According to reports in Spain, as well as extolling Suárez’s virtues as a player, those in favour of taking the Uruguay striker to the Nou Camp also offered a reminder that Barcelona retained the services of Hristo Stoichkov despite the Bulgarian receiving a two-month ban for stamping on the foot of Urizar Azpitarte, the referee, in 1990.
Liverpool are aware of the growing momentum behind Barcelona’s attempt to sign Suárez, and they are also conscious that the Uruguay striker has a long-held desire to move to Spain. Though Liverpool will not allow Suárez to leave willingly, there is a growing feeling within the club that it would make sense to allow him to depart should they receive an offer approaching the record £85 million fee that Real Madrid paid for Gareth Bale last year.
Barcelona are hoping the controversy surrounding Suárez will convince Liverpool that the time has come to dispense with his services, but Anfield sources maintain there is no prospect of him being allowed to depart in a cut-price deal as a result of his suspension.
While Barcelona believe that Suárez’s ineligibility to take part in any kind of football activities until late October means he should be made available at a discount, given that he would be banned for the first six games of the forthcoming La Liga campaign, Liverpool regard the suspension as irrelevant. There is also bemusement at the idea that Barcelona are seeking a lower fee given reports that Suárez has already agreed a five-year contract in principle with the Catalan club.
Liverpool demonstrated last season that they would not be bullied into selling Suárez when Arsenal made a £40,000,001 for his services and refused to buckle even when the former Ajax player attempted to force the move through. That strength of conviction has not been altered by Suárez’s latest indiscretion and Liverpool will consider allowing him to leave only if their valuation — one that aligns with a buyout clause in his contract — is met.
A growing possibility is that Barcelona will offer Alexis Sánchez in part exchange for Suárez, but although Liverpool have a strong interest in the Chile winger, they would entertain that idea only if there is also a cash adjustment in the region of £50 million in their favour.
That it has now reached the stage where the size of the expected offer will determine Suárez’s future illustrates that Liverpool now accept his departure would allow them to push on with a squad-rebuilding strategy, which looks set to continue with the signing of Adam Lallana from Southampton.
Having already acquired Rickie Lambert for £4 million from the same club, Liverpool brought weeks of negotiations for Lallana to a successful conclusion by agreeing a fee in the region of £25 million for the England player, who is expected to complete his move to Anfield in the next 48 hours.
With a £6 million move for Divock Origi, the Lille and Belgium forward, also close to completion and their interest in Lazar Markovic — the Benfica attacking midfield player who is understood to have a £20 million buyout clause — hardening in recent days, it is becoming increasingly clear that Liverpool are reshaping their forward line.
Suárez’s solicitor, Alejandro Balbi, was in Barcelona yesterday to hold talks with Pere Guardiola, the player’s agent, but claims that they were also meeting with representatives of Liverpool’s legal department have been dismissed by officials at the Merseyside club.
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