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Posted on 11/8/09 at 6:47 am to Sandkhan
I think the point is that is this. Had it been ruled an interception and LSU got the ball back I for one would not have a bitch at all because thats all you can ask for is the ball in your hands with a chance to win the game.
There are alot of other factors that played into this game with penalties that killed momentum and drives time and time again. I wish all the LSU fans would understand that there is not much difference talent wise between LSU, Bama, and FL.LSU played these two teams very close unlike the other "elites" of the conference. These three teams are on a completely different level than the rest of the SEC and it ain't even close.
There are alot of other factors that played into this game with penalties that killed momentum and drives time and time again. I wish all the LSU fans would understand that there is not much difference talent wise between LSU, Bama, and FL.LSU played these two teams very close unlike the other "elites" of the conference. These three teams are on a completely different level than the rest of the SEC and it ain't even close.
Posted on 11/8/09 at 6:50 am to Tigerfan613
You are completely correct TF. Those 3 teams are the class of the SEC. If the game is in DV or we don't have the bye week last week....we may not win.
I think it is sad that one of the best games in a series that has featured a lot of great games is just going down as "Alabama pays the refs" or whatever.
I think it is sad that one of the best games in a series that has featured a lot of great games is just going down as "Alabama pays the refs" or whatever.
Posted on 11/8/09 at 7:06 am to Sandkhan
I think Saban may put some distance between Bama and lsu the longer he stays.
Posted on 11/8/09 at 7:09 am to Sandkhan
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Now, commence with the bird flipping
And what game were u watching
This post was edited on 11/8/09 at 7:10 am
Posted on 11/8/09 at 7:24 am to Sandkhan
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It was damn close. But even his pinky toe out of bounds is out of bounds.
dude trust what you actually see and stop being a crimson cock.
Doesn't mean LSU drives down the field and wins, just means they have a chance and that chance was taken away by a crappy replay official. That's not hard to admit I wouldn't think but you are from Gummperland
Posted on 11/8/09 at 7:36 am to danfraz
That's the point. I didn't see shite. No one did. Now, presumably, PP PROBABLY....i'd say 90 percent certain, didn't touch his foot out of bounds if you are going to call what he had possesion(and i'd be fine with that being called possesion. wouldn't argue, but it too could go either way)....but the call on the field was incomplete and the shitty replay angles didn't do anything to PROVE definatively that he was in bounds.
And yeah, you would have had a chance....but you had a chance all game to not let it come down to that. And had a chance to not run into our punter. And had a chance to not go for 2.
And yeah, you would have had a chance....but you had a chance all game to not let it come down to that. And had a chance to not run into our punter. And had a chance to not go for 2.
Posted on 11/8/09 at 7:38 am to Sandkhan
you should check your own QB's quote on the matter and take it from there
"sometimes you get a break"
even he knew it was a INT. again, not saying the outcome changes at all but to have a chance taken away after all the SEC ref crap this year is a little bullshitty....well more than a little and it makes the entire conference look foolish
eta: running into the punter was on the same drive as the non int call
"sometimes you get a break"
even he knew it was a INT. again, not saying the outcome changes at all but to have a chance taken away after all the SEC ref crap this year is a little bullshitty....well more than a little and it makes the entire conference look foolish
eta: running into the punter was on the same drive as the non int call
This post was edited on 11/8/09 at 7:40 am
Posted on 11/8/09 at 7:42 am to danfraz
There is no way McElroy had seen the replay when he made that quote, as they won't watch film until probably tomorrow. He was probably referencing the "break" as PP not being able to stay in bounds....or at least not to the capacity that an SEC official saw fit to call him in bounds
Posted on 11/8/09 at 7:47 am to arlo
It was probably a pick, athough the camera angles shown yesterday did not show conclusive evidence of getting a foot down. You have to go back to the call on the field...and there was not enough conclusive video evidence to overturn it, IMO. You can certainly blame the refs on the field. In their defense, the two on the sideline briefly discussed what they each saw with each other before making the incomplete call.
With that said, there is no way to know that LSU would have driven the field and scored. Bama was screwed out of a nice catch by our TE on the first drive due to replay issues. I could as easily say each call cancelled out the other. The probability that Bama 'would have driven the field and scored' if that one had gone our way has the same odds of occurring as LSU's after the non-interception, right? Who knows???
With that said, there is no way to know that LSU would have driven the field and scored. Bama was screwed out of a nice catch by our TE on the first drive due to replay issues. I could as easily say each call cancelled out the other. The probability that Bama 'would have driven the field and scored' if that one had gone our way has the same odds of occurring as LSU's after the non-interception, right? Who knows???
Posted on 11/8/09 at 7:48 am to Sandkhan
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He was probably referencing the "break" as PP not being able to stay in bounds.
and the moon landing was staged
f**k you gumps are a real piece of work. Hey you know what, the UGA/LSU game had bad calls and LSU was on the good side of a couple
see it's not that hard to admit
eta: thanks for the new sig quote btw
This post was edited on 11/8/09 at 7:50 am
Posted on 11/8/09 at 7:50 am to danfraz
And the MSU game. And a lot of the last decade. Luck ebbs and flows. All you can do is put yourself in a position to win and if it's close, hope you get the breaks
Posted on 11/8/09 at 7:53 am to Sandkhan
No problem. Glad you liked my point as there is no way in hell that Greg McElroy knew if PP made that interception. Keep it up as long as you'd like and it'll ring as true 90 years from now as it does today
Posted on 11/8/09 at 8:01 am to Sandkhan
quote:I disagree. It was obvious to me the instant I saw the replay.
It was called incomplete and there is NOTHING in the replay that absolutely and unequivocally shows that it was definitively an interception.
quote:But he never lost control of it. So the tucking it away part means nothing. He had possession the instant he caught it, not when he finally tucked it away.
he's tucking the ball to put it laces in. Now, if a receiver catches a ball over the middle and pulls that move and gets lit up and the ball comes lose....it's an incompletion because he didn't have possession.
quote:I really have no clue what you are talking about.
But over the last decade or so, haven't you guys been the beneficiary of "the breaks" more times than not? Miss State fans are still bitching that Anthony Dixon got in against you guys. Hell, just think of the entire 2007 season(and thank Dick Rod for blowing it one more time).
The INT did not cost us the game. We still had opportunities to put Bama away on that drive and didn't. Bama is a better team, your QB made a bunch of big time plays, and you all have a special RB there.
But that doesn't change the fact that this was an INT. And what makes it worse was that there were umpteen threads on this board all week about how the refs were going to screw us so Bama stayed unbeaten. A ridiculous idea, of course, but it was given credibility after that play.
Posted on 11/8/09 at 8:01 am to SEC Ranter
If you cant see that thw wrong call was made then you are biased. bama played the better game and deserved to win but to say that call was right is a joke.
Posted on 11/8/09 at 8:04 am to Sandkhan
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there is no way in hell that Greg McElroy knew if PP made that interception
oh you mean they guy who threw it to him and saw the play right in front of him had no idea it was a INT, even after he said in a national article that his team caught a break on the replay call...that guy?
Hell McElroy has a future as a SEC ref/replay official then
Posted on 11/8/09 at 8:05 am to Roach
*sigh*
last time....in watching the video it is reasonable to assume that PP probably did make the pick. Problem is, there were terrible replay angles and none showed him making the picks. But I at the very least appreciate the LSU fans who, even if they think that the replay shows a pick and I disagree with them....aren't on the referee's cheated kick
last time....in watching the video it is reasonable to assume that PP probably did make the pick. Problem is, there were terrible replay angles and none showed him making the picks. But I at the very least appreciate the LSU fans who, even if they think that the replay shows a pick and I disagree with them....aren't on the referee's cheated kick
Posted on 11/8/09 at 8:11 am to Sandkhan
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Sandkhan
Mike Slive has spoken
Posted on 11/8/09 at 8:14 am to Sandkhan
Agree w/ nearly all of your points, especially w/ the refs on the field simply not believing that PP could have made such a play (hell, I didn't believe it myself at first).
That being said, if you really think the replay was inconclusive, you're crazy.
1. Possession: From the instant that the ball hit his hands, PP had control of it---no bobble, etc. Hell, the ball didn't even rotate while in his grasp (just focus on the white stripe in the replay).
2. Feet: Facts, they are stubborn things, aren't they? The replay clearly shows that it was his first step that causes the divot, which CBS clearly showed as being in bounds.
Control of ball + first step clearly in bounds= interception.
IMO, this was a worse call than the phantom interference call in the Arky-Fla game, a call that the SEC admitted was blown.
I expect the same thing to happen here, not that it matters anymore.
That being said, if you really think the replay was inconclusive, you're crazy.
1. Possession: From the instant that the ball hit his hands, PP had control of it---no bobble, etc. Hell, the ball didn't even rotate while in his grasp (just focus on the white stripe in the replay).
2. Feet: Facts, they are stubborn things, aren't they? The replay clearly shows that it was his first step that causes the divot, which CBS clearly showed as being in bounds.
Control of ball + first step clearly in bounds= interception.
IMO, this was a worse call than the phantom interference call in the Arky-Fla game, a call that the SEC admitted was blown.
I expect the same thing to happen here, not that it matters anymore.
This post was edited on 11/8/09 at 8:15 am
Posted on 11/8/09 at 8:18 am to Crimsonpanther13
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Yes there is. At least one foot in bounds(probably two, but only one is needed). Also, he had complete control of the ball from the time it touched his hands. It was an INT and it was indisputable. They screwed the pooch on that call.
Having said that, I don't think it would've made a difference had they gotten it right. After Jefferson and then Scott getting hurt, they couldn't move the ball at all.
This is probably the most accurate post out these 2 pages.
With Scott and Jefferson out we weren't moving the ball and that was the biggest break Bama got; not the blown replay. Had JJ and CS still been in, there is no doubt LSU wins this game.
INT??? Yes it was. was it the difference in the game? No, see above CS JJ reference.
Comparing this team to the 08 team is just plain ignorant. The 08 team never showed any sign of progress. The 09 team is showing great progress and I can't wait to stomp that Bama a$$ in BR next year.
I'm now pulling for Bama to win it all this year.
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