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re: Your Opinion - What would be needed to lift sanctions on Iran?
Posted on 7/21/19 at 8:48 pm to Lima Whiskey
Posted on 7/21/19 at 8:48 pm to Lima Whiskey
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You’re talking about Arabs.
Yeah...them too.
What point were you trying to make?
This post was edited on 7/21/19 at 8:49 pm
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Posted on 7/21/19 at 8:50 pm to SUB
Deliver those pallets of cash to my house :
Just kidding what they said above me!
Just kidding what they said above me!
Posted on 7/21/19 at 8:53 pm to Dale51
The Persians are completely different.
Posted on 7/21/19 at 9:01 pm to mmcgrath
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Then we should offer to lift some of the remaining if they allow monitoring of all long range missiles.
And if they don't?
Posted on 7/21/19 at 9:04 pm to Lima Whiskey
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We need to get over ourselves.
The embassy crisis was 40 years ago,
You lefties need to get over yourselves. The "Take it to the streets!" commie shtick was 50 years ago.
We need to think about what our interests actually are.
Posted on 7/21/19 at 9:08 pm to Lima Whiskey
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The Persians are completely different.
Islam is not an ethnicity.
You seem to be trying to believe that, say if Somalian muslims hatchet choppers do some choppin', and someone were to point out those habits and beliefs of radical islamists, you would say, "They're not islamists...they're Somalis."
Posted on 7/21/19 at 9:22 pm to Dale51
We’re talking about Persians.
Posted on 7/21/19 at 9:24 pm to Dale51
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You lefties need to get over yourselves. The "Take it to the streets!" commie shtick was 50 years ago.
We need to think about what our interests actually are.
Revenge is a pig headed and emotional justification for continued hostility towards Iran.
It’s dumb, and self defeating.
This post was edited on 7/21/19 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 7/21/19 at 9:33 pm to Lima Whiskey
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We’re talking about Persians.
Are you joking or did you miss the point?
That said, you're talking about Persians...after you brought up Arabs.
My point had nothing to do with either.
This post was edited on 7/21/19 at 9:36 pm
Posted on 7/21/19 at 9:34 pm to Lima Whiskey
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Revenge is a pig headed and emotional justification
This is the Begging the Question Fallacy.
Posted on 7/21/19 at 11:17 pm to Dale51
quote:then we don't lift those sanctions. But really, who cares?
And if they don't?
Posted on 7/21/19 at 11:17 pm to Dale51
What you described, in your post, was the Arab stereotype, which you appear to assume describes Persians as well.
This is not true, and it’s the sign of monumental ignorance.
The Arabs, the people who spilled out of the Arabian peninsula in the 7th century, were primitive tribesmen, which is one of the reasons why they found Islam so attractive. It was a cultural leg up.
Unfortunately for the Arabs, they have refused to adapt or reform their faith to modernity, and they remain trapped in time.
Saudi Arabia, for example, is a medieval kingdom with a facade of modernity. Underneath, nothing has changed.
This is why that stereotype continues to resonate. Because the Arabs are stuck in time.
The Persians are much more sophisticated. They were a major power, dating back to antiquity, and they have a much more complicated understanding of the world because of that history. Their culture is also far more developed, they produce real art, and real literature. They deal with complicated ideas.
It’s telling that Iran has real and credible universities. It’s telling that they have a diversified economy that actually makes things.
Persians and Arabs are very different.
This is not true, and it’s the sign of monumental ignorance.
The Arabs, the people who spilled out of the Arabian peninsula in the 7th century, were primitive tribesmen, which is one of the reasons why they found Islam so attractive. It was a cultural leg up.
Unfortunately for the Arabs, they have refused to adapt or reform their faith to modernity, and they remain trapped in time.
Saudi Arabia, for example, is a medieval kingdom with a facade of modernity. Underneath, nothing has changed.
This is why that stereotype continues to resonate. Because the Arabs are stuck in time.
The Persians are much more sophisticated. They were a major power, dating back to antiquity, and they have a much more complicated understanding of the world because of that history. Their culture is also far more developed, they produce real art, and real literature. They deal with complicated ideas.
It’s telling that Iran has real and credible universities. It’s telling that they have a diversified economy that actually makes things.
Persians and Arabs are very different.
This post was edited on 7/21/19 at 11:19 pm
Posted on 7/22/19 at 4:35 am to SUB
Absolutely nothing, they need to be kept on sanctions till the end of times or completely destroyed....they’ve had every opportunity for the last 40 years to act right.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 8:18 pm to SUB
Total abandonment of their islamic theocracy
Posted on 7/22/19 at 8:28 pm to Wednesday
Bend. The. Knee.
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