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re: World economic rankings.

Posted on 4/5/25 at 3:49 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/5/25 at 3:49 pm to
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Tariffs are cronyism.
If tariffed foreign goods are cronyism, WTF are foreign undertaxed/untaxed goods vs fully taxed US corporations?
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Small businesses will get destroyed here.
Should we just increase personal and/or corporate taxes instead?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298326 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 3:52 pm to
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WTF are foreign undertaxed/untaxed goods vs fully taxed US corporations?


A benefit for the American consumer at the cost of the foreign consumer.

One day you people will realize imports and exports are different transactions, and are done by individual companies, not the "USA"
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138584 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 4:15 pm to
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A benefit for the American consumer
My goodness.

So US corporations being taxed out of competitiveness is "a benefit for the American consumer"?
You really have no clue as to WTF you're talking about.

Sorry, but your contention that relatively overtaxed US corporations are "a benefit for the American consumer" is just stupid!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298326 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 4:17 pm to
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So US corporations being taxed out of competitiveness


Our own labor costs do that.

If you want balanced trade, you better get busy devaluing the dollar.
Posted by 1loyalbamafan
alabama
Member since Mar 2015
4046 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 4:27 pm to
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a poor person now lives better than a middle class guy from the '50's.


Wow. So it's better to get section 8 housing, SNAP benefits than to work hard everyday like most had to do in the 50's.......Got it.


You made a very valid point. You can work like hell and get rich or work like hell to pay for the poors to live better than you.

Is it any wonder all the poors in the world want to sneak into America?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138584 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 4:32 pm to
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Our own labor costs do that.
NO!

Just stop!

Our own labor costs occur ATOP OF THAT.

[quote]If you want balanced trade, you better get busy devaluing the dollar.[/quote}Goodness!
Sounds so simple. Sounds like a personal situation.

You implied you had some sort of advanced economic knowledge, Rog.

What would dollar devaluation do to inflation?
To the average person's buying power?
To the buying power of those on fixed income?
To cost-of-carry of our dept?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298326 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 4:33 pm to
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Our own labor costs do that.
NO!


Oh jesus, here comes the tears.

We are priced out of the worlds labor markets, by and large, or we wouldnt need tariffs.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138584 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 4:41 pm to
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We are priced out of the worlds labor markets
Irrelevant (actually your contention is ridiculous on a PPP basis).

But irrelevant because your supposed labor overcharge occurs atop any tax, subsidy, dumping differentials.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298326 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 4:42 pm to
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Irrelevant (actually your contention is ridiculous on a PPP basis


Holy frick..

You think its irrelevant that we are priced out of labor markets by our own retarded monetary policy..
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138584 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 4:57 pm to
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ou think its irrelevant that we are priced out of labor markets by our own retarded monetary policy..
Perhaps TDS tremors prevent you from reading the posts which you imagine you're responding to. I said (very clearly) our labor market is irrelevant TO THE POINT AT HAND because the labor market is independent from it.

Put differently, and in terms you might better understand, regardless as to how bad our labor situation may or may not be (totally different conversation), the issues we're discussing are above and beyond those conditions.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298326 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 5:00 pm to
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Perhaps TDS tremors prevent y


This isnt TDS cultist.

Obama and Biden are to blame as well as Bush
Posted by TD422
Destrehan, LA
Member since Jun 2019
869 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 6:56 pm to
If the topic has a connection to the original discussion, I disagree. The real world, and the consequences of any decision made by individuals or government, doesn’t exist in a vacuum. This is a discussion board with unlimited characters and posts. You can address a post, or move on. Let the moderators moderate. Posters post. Only the moderators reserve the right to limit conversation.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59332 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 7:03 pm to
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We are priced out of the worlds labor markets, by and large, or we wouldnt need tariffs.


It isn’t nearly as black and white as your simple mind makes it here.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55286 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 7:04 pm to
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He’s gloating about being #2 to fricking China. Literally bragging.

We are not #2 to China; they are #2 to us…by a lot.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298326 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 7:06 pm to
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It isn’t nearly as black and white as your simple mind makes it here.



Of course, you can apply any one of the five different, often conflicting reasons Trump has given for the tariffs to cover yourself
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59332 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 7:17 pm to
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Of course, you can apply any one of the five different, often conflicting reasons Trump has given for the tariffs to cover yourself


Another simple-minded take. You only deal in absolutes, which is a fool’s errand. You don’t know what you don’t know.
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