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Why wasn't DACA a priority for congressional Dems in 2009 and early 2010?

Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:15 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69312 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:15 pm
Surely if they actually gave a shite about these people it would have been dealt with then
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:19 pm to
It was put to soft vote by Reid if I remember correctly. I think they knew they didn't have the votes in the Senate but in 2010 (lame duck session) they put it to a vote. 5 Democrats including Tester (only remaining dem) voted against DACA.

There were several Republicans that voted for DACA but they didn't have the 60 votes to pass the law
This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 5:29 pm
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:21 pm to
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5 Democrats including Tester (only remaining dem) voted against DACA.
Tacking to the center: works 20% of the time, every time
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:23 pm to
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Here it is ...

LINK

The 55-41 vote was mostly along party lines, though a handful of Democrats — perhaps fearful of their 2012 election outlook — also voted against the DREAM Act.

DREAM Act would have passed if Democrats had shown unity on the measure.

But five Democrats voted against the legislation: Kay Hagan of North Carolina, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, Ben Nelson of Nebraska and both Montana Democrats, Jon Tester and Max Baucus. West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin announced his opposition to the DREAM Act Saturday in a statement Saturday but missed the vote.

Three Republicans crossed party lines to vote for the bill: Indiana Sen. Richard Lugar, Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski and Utah Sen. Bob Bennett.

The DREAM Act’s defeat was a resounding victory for conservatives who have denounced the bill as a mass amnesty plan. But it was a blow for top Senate Democrats and President Barack Obama, who enlisted a half dozen Cabinet secretaries to lobby undecided lawmakers and embark on a media blitz highlighting that the bill would send more people to college, boost military recruitment and help the economy.

“This bill is a law that at its fundamental core is a reward for illegal activity,” said Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) on the floor an hour before the vote. “It’s the third time we’ve tried to schedule a vote on it during this lame-duck session; it’s the fifth version of this legislation that has been introduced in the past five months.”
This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 5:25 pm
Posted by FutureRATeammember
Member since Jan 2015
3768 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:24 pm to
This was a wedge issue for obama. The EO was just virtue signalling for votes.

The interesting part in all of this is the gop. Ran against daca and obamacare and by next year both are likely to be strengthened. Sort of amazing.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123945 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:25 pm to
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they didn't have the 60 votes to end Filibuster
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:26 pm to
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Tacking to the center: works 20% of the time, every time


It's going to be interesting to see how Tester votes this time. I predict he votes for it this time.
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:32 pm to
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NC_Tigah


For the most part it was correct. No idea how I remembered that vote form 7 years ago including the Tester part.

Just remembered something about 60 votes. I changed it though you bitch
This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 5:33 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260862 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:39 pm to
Social justice movement was still seen as bat shite crazy by normal dems back then.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123945 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 6:34 pm to
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I changed it though you bitch
Not being a stickler, Rakim. It was no picayunish detail.

It was the same damn filibuster-proof Congress that enabled passage of Obamacare without a single GOP vote. Point being, any legislation was there for the passing. If Obama/Reid/Pelosi had any real desire to pass actual immigration reform, they could have done it easily. They didn't!
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 6:34 pm to
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Social justice movement was still seen as bat shite crazy by normal dems back then.



makes you wonder what dopey shite they will be backing that same amount of time into the future
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