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re: why is Washington ignoring russian strikes on American business assets in Ukraine?

Posted on 5/14/26 at 11:06 am to
Posted by LLeD
Member since Apr 2026
310 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 11:06 am to
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This seems very odd considering for the last 10 years we’ve all been repeatedly told that Trump is a “Russian asset” and “Putin’s puppet”
moscow is spreading this BS, USA is flooded with kremlin propaganda and lies. (scissor strategy).
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
16314 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 11:18 am to
Yes but the very important difference was when Russia armed Vietnam to protect it from US invasion it wasn't giving them weapons to strike US oil facilities on US soil.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
16314 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 11:20 am to
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LLeD


And you are just a neocon bot. If you feel so strongly you can volunteer and go sit in a trench in eastern Ukraine. Until then you are just an internet coward who wants someone else to fight and die for your cause.
Posted by LLeD
Member since Apr 2026
310 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 11:23 am to
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....and taking it nuclear if need be”
there is nothing from nuke left. Everything was stolen and the money was used to buy real estate, cars, etc. in the West. moscow constantly lies and intimidates everyone. What they really have - is biological and chemical weapons, they have always been the best at this. History has proven that communists are incapable of producing goods for the benefit of humanity or own citizens.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38341 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 11:24 am to
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Yes but the very important difference was when Russia armed Vietnam to protect it from US invasion it wasn't giving them weapons to strike US oil facilities on US soil.
Russia is being attacked inside Russia by the country Russia invaded, against targets tied to Russia’s own war effort. That is not remotely the same category as Russia striking oil facilities in Texas or Louisiana.

Ukraine hitting Russian military and energy targets connected to Russia’s invasion is not the same as NATO attacking Moscow, and it is not the same as Russia attacking American facilities inside the United States. That distinction is exactly why Russia bitches, threatens, and escalates rhetorically, but still stops short of openly striking NATO territory.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38341 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 11:31 am to
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there is nothing from nuke left. Everything was stolen and the money was used to buy real estate, cars, etc. in the West. moscow constantly lies and intimidates everyone. What they really have - is biological and chemical weapons, they have always been the best at this. History has proven that communists are incapable of producing goods for the benefit of humanity or own citizens.
I agree Russia certainly overstates the reliability and readiness of its nuclear arsenal. Corruption, decay, stolen funds, neglected maintenance, all of that is completely true.

But going from “Russia’s nuclear capability is degraded” to “there is nothing left” is fantasy. They do not need a perfect arsenal to cause a catastrophe. They only need enough working weapons and delivery systems to make direct war with NATO a possibility.

That is the whole point of nuclear deterrence. It does not require Russia to have some flawless Soviet superweapon stockpile. It only requires enough surviving capability that nobody sane wants to test whether the other 90% rotted away.


And, dude, your ESL is showing.
Posted by LLeD
Member since Apr 2026
310 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 11:33 am to
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If you feel so strongly you can volunteer and go
I will definitely stand up for my country if the communist orcs attack it.
soviet shill, "Texit" won't succeed; your russia will likely collapse, which would be amusing.
Actually, I wouldn't want that, because all the orcs would flood my beautiful country again. Better for them to remain forever behind a high wall topped with barbed wire and build their "communism paradise" alongside China.
This post was edited on 5/14/26 at 11:35 am
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5705 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 11:45 am to
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I will definitely stand up for my country if the communist orcs attack it


So you do not know that Russia is less socialistic/communist than western Europe these days or will they always be Soviets to you?

On that note, you should be in Minn, Cal, Ore or Was fighting full fledged communists instead of posting dribble here.
This post was edited on 5/14/26 at 11:46 am
Posted by LLeD
Member since Apr 2026
310 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 11:48 am to
Why would they use missiles if they're so successful at cybercrime, for e.g... They've flooded all the G7 countries with their orcs, and it's more effective than any weapon, undermining the foundations of our civilization.

I never said I lived in often say that I love this country and wish it only the best.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38341 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 11:54 am to
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Why would they use missiles if they're so successful at cybercrime, for e.g... They've flooded all the G7 countries with their orcs, and it's more effective than any weapon, undermining the foundations of our civilization.
That's a different argument.

The question is whether it is rational to assume Russia has no usable nuclear capability left and therefore treat direct escalation with them as low-risk.

Russia using cheaper asymmetric tools does not prove its missile force is fake. It proves Russia prefers tools that create damage while staying below the threshold of open war with the USA. That is exactly the same escalation logic I’m talking about.

Cyberattacks, influence ops, sabotage, proxies, and threats all let Russia pressure the West without forcing the kind of direct response that launching missiles at Western countries would invite. That does not mean the nuclear threat is imaginary. It means they understand the difference between harassment and direct war.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173756 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 11:55 am to
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We are at war with Iran, one of Russia's biggest allies. This comes after we ousted Maduro in Venezuela, who was another huge ally to Putin/Russia.

The threat of nukes isn't a talking point after those 2 operations. That's such a 2023 talking point.

You could argue it's more of a talking point if we're putting their backs against a wall
Posted by LLeD
Member since Apr 2026
310 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 12:10 pm to
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So you do not know that Russia is less socialistic/communist than western Europe

BS, putin said that he is going to "re-build ussr" in 2008 yet. You're either naively underestimating or deliberately downplaying. LINK
I am pretty well informed about commies in the USA + EU constantly underlining: this is COMINTERN china + russia + iran + their proxies are behind. These are systemic and ideological enemies of our Civilization, not friends.

russia exploits right-wing organizations and polarizes societies

On January 3, 2025, Aleksandr Dugin posted on X: "If we don't kill them they kill us. Everywhere - US, UK, Europe, Ukraine and elsewhere. Let finish them first." LINK
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Dugin's ideas have influenced the MAGA communism movement, which combines elements of nationalism and anti-globalism, promoting a multipolar world that supports russia, iran, and china against the United States. This movement, represented by figures like Haz Al-Din and Jackson Hinkle, draws on Dugin's anti-American sentiments and his vision of a new political order.
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