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Why does our government not have remote work figured out?
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:11 am
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:11 am
Specifically legislative branch?
Why don't they have remote figured out?
60 years ago they had a bunker in Pennsylvania at a resort. Surely they have a work from home option?
Why don't they have remote figured out?
60 years ago they had a bunker in Pennsylvania at a resort. Surely they have a work from home option?
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:13 am to thelawnwranglers
Need to justify their high salaries, lobbyist kickbacks, and big DC houses. They could telecommute for 99% of the crap that they do and stay their asses in their districts.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:23 am to thelawnwranglers
AOC still trying to figure out how her garbage disposal works...
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:27 am to thelawnwranglers
They must have protocols for this. The notion that they can only vote if present in the well of the senate is borderline a national security risk. The president has declared a national emergency. What more do they want?
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:46 am to thelawnwranglers
Government will not change unless forced to by the people.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:53 am to thelawnwranglers
Florida Speaker of the House sent out this explanation as to why we can’t vote remotely here:
The Florida Constitution’s Physical Presence Requirement for Legislative Session
· Under Article II, Section 3, the Constitution provides that the Legislature shall “convene” to conduct business and is in session only when a “quorum” is present, and the provision contemplates a mechanism by which a lesser number of members may compel the “presence” of “absent” members.
· Those words may take on a broader range of meanings when used in 2020, but their original and fixed meaning — in 1968 — was necessarily limited to physically “conven[ing]” a “quorum” of members physically present and the compulsion of members’ physical “presence” when physically “absent.”
· The Constitution specifically allows the Joint Legislative Budget Commission to meet telephonically in Article 3, Section (19)(j). If the Legislature could meet telephonically, the Constitution would say so.
· House and Senate rules plainly reflect the understanding that physical presence is required. There are at least 15 examples in House Rules.
I assume we will address changing our constitution to allow for exceptions
The Florida Constitution’s Physical Presence Requirement for Legislative Session
· Under Article II, Section 3, the Constitution provides that the Legislature shall “convene” to conduct business and is in session only when a “quorum” is present, and the provision contemplates a mechanism by which a lesser number of members may compel the “presence” of “absent” members.
· Those words may take on a broader range of meanings when used in 2020, but their original and fixed meaning — in 1968 — was necessarily limited to physically “conven[ing]” a “quorum” of members physically present and the compulsion of members’ physical “presence” when physically “absent.”
· The Constitution specifically allows the Joint Legislative Budget Commission to meet telephonically in Article 3, Section (19)(j). If the Legislature could meet telephonically, the Constitution would say so.
· House and Senate rules plainly reflect the understanding that physical presence is required. There are at least 15 examples in House Rules.
I assume we will address changing our constitution to allow for exceptions
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:53 am to thelawnwranglers
It is a government transparency thing. I am OK if they change for epidemics, but needs to not be a normal occurrence.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:18 am to thelawnwranglers
The same reason most employers are struggling with employees working from home....because the boss doesn’t have control. Technology makes it entirely possible for people to work from home but the boss is skeered the employee might not be at the switch 8 hours out of 8 hours....meanwhile when they’re in the office they’re shooting the shite, eating potlucks and singing happy birthday and buying shite on Amazon and conducting small businesses on line or looking for another job.
There is NO reason that most employees who are working on a computer all day aren’t already working from home instead of commuting....before this fiasco. Employees would be in a position to work for much less without a commute and if they were at the house when the school bus ran in the morning and the evening. A business would need far fewer square feet of commercial office space and the related inefficiencies associated with utilities etc. the up side to a stay at home workforce is enormous but the boss, poor pit upon bastard, would be worried that Sally and Bob are walking their dog 15 minutes out of the day instead of manning the switch.....the boss ain’t relinquishing that sense of control no matter how much money it costs
There is NO reason that most employees who are working on a computer all day aren’t already working from home instead of commuting....before this fiasco. Employees would be in a position to work for much less without a commute and if they were at the house when the school bus ran in the morning and the evening. A business would need far fewer square feet of commercial office space and the related inefficiencies associated with utilities etc. the up side to a stay at home workforce is enormous but the boss, poor pit upon bastard, would be worried that Sally and Bob are walking their dog 15 minutes out of the day instead of manning the switch.....the boss ain’t relinquishing that sense of control no matter how much money it costs
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:38 am to BigJim
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It is a government transparency thing. I am OK if they change for epidemics, but needs to not be a normal occurrence.
I agree. This could easily be abused a la Weekend at Bernies.
They would keep old timers on life support at home while the staffers make the decisions and pull the lever for votes.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 12:06 pm to Gtmodawg
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The same reason most employers are struggling with employees working from home....because the boss doesn’t have control. Technology makes it entirely possible for people to work from home but the boss is skeered the employee might not be at the switch 8 hours out of 8 hours....meanwhile when they’re in the office they’re shooting the shite, eating potlucks and singing happy birthday and buying shite on Amazon and conducting small businesses on line or looking for another job.
There is NO reason that most employees who are working on a computer all day aren’t already working from home instead of commuting....before this fiasco. Employees would be in a position to work for much less without a commute and if they were at the house when the school bus ran in the morning and the evening. A business would need far fewer square feet of commercial office space and the related inefficiencies associated with utilities etc. the up side to a stay at home workforce is enormous but the boss, poor pit upon bastard, would be worried that Sally and Bob are walking their dog 15 minutes out of the day instead of manning the switch.....the boss ain’t relinquishing that sense of control no matter how much money it costs
This ^^^^
I am getting telework push-back right now for this very reason. My supervisor is a micromanaging count. She can't handle not being able to breathe over our shoulders all day.
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