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re: Why can’t we be allies with Russia??

Posted on 10/21/23 at 4:20 pm to
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 10/21/23 at 4:20 pm to
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But they still insist that he's not a residual, leftover Bolshevik.


The only leftover Bolsheviks in the room are the Bill Kristols and Victoria Nulands of the world.
This post was edited on 10/21/23 at 4:21 pm
Posted by jackamo3300
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2004
2901 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 5:25 pm to
Of course a devotee and admirer of Lenin couldn't possibly harbor even a scintilla of Bolshevik leanings.

Who only disagreed with his hero and role model on one issue - what he gave up at Brest-Litovsk - which Putin believed laid the groundwork for the eventual collapse of the U.S.S.R.

Nothing there to even hint at his possibly fantasizing over being remembered as the Russian President who at least began the process of recapturing those lost Soviets.

See "The Eueopean Institute Analyses the Bolshevik Code":

And one that should sit well with a few of his defenders:

"Putin the Marxist-Leninist by the Heritage Foundation"

Anything more really need be said about the little poisoner/irredentist.

Have to admit that it takes a special type to trust something like that.
This post was edited on 10/21/23 at 6:19 pm
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 7:01 pm to
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In his speech to the Russian parliament on 4 December, Vladimir Putin quoted philosopher Ivan Ilyin, who died 60 years ago today. Putin supervised the repatriation and reburial of Ilyin’s body in 2005, and has laid flowers on Ilyin’s grave. He has quoted him several times before. Ilyin’s Our Tasks (Nashi Zadachi) was one of three books distributed by the Kremlin as recommended reading to regional governors and senior members of the United Russia party in early 2014. And on December 22nd of this year, members of the Duma, Federation Council, and Presidential Administration will meet in Moscow for a round-table discussion of his work. If Putin has a favourite philosopher, Ilyin seems to be the man. So who was he and what did he believe in?


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Born in 1883, Ilyin studied law at Moscow State University and completed his thesis The philosophy of Hegel as a doctrine of the concreteness of God and humanity in 1916. Resolutely anti-communist, he was expelled from Soviet Russia in 1922 along with some 200 other intellectuals on the infamous ‘philosophers’ steamboat’. He then took up residence in Berlin, where he made contact with members of the exiled White army of General P.N. Wrangel, who nicknamed him Belyi (White) on account of the pure belizna (whiteness) of his opinions. Ilyin became the unofficial ideologist of the White Army in exile, and much of his work thereafter was as much political as it was philosophical, and was aimed at a wider audience than other philosophers.


Ilyns most famous work is On Resistance to Evil With Force, where he creates a theological argument for violently confronting communism.

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Ilyin’s work covered a large variety of subjects, including the philosophy of Hegel, law, politics, the ethics of violence, the nature of the Russian nation, and the tasks incumbent on Russian émigrés. He was in many respects a religious philosopher, in that he regarded spiritual matters as more important than material ones. He believed that the Russian revolution was a product of the spiritual failings of the Russian people. Russia’s resurrection depended on the revival of the correct spirit, including a love of God, a love of Russia, respect for the law, a sense of duty and honour, and devotion to the state and the common weal rather than personal or party interests. It is difficult to reduce the writings of such a complex thinker to a few lines, but three themes stand out: gosudarstvennost’ (statehood); pravosoznanie (legal consciousness); and natsionalizm (nationalism).


LINK

Excerpt of Putins thoughts on Communism

LINK
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56707 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 7:03 pm to
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Yeah he won't even say that cwill is my alter, I am cwill's alter. How I have fallen.


I’ve tried to tell him, bud. He won’t listen to me. Knowing you personally isn’t enough. I hope all is well.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 7:13 pm to
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I’ve tried to tell him, bud. He won’t listen to me. Knowing you personally isn’t enough. I hope all is well.

I have proven it 4 times already, cheers boy...

You dont even understand what he is saying there.
This post was edited on 10/21/23 at 7:15 pm
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
56669 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 7:22 pm to
No money in it!
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
26279 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 7:35 pm to
I’ve asked the same 100 times.
No reason for us not putting it all aside and getting along in 2023.
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
6324 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 10:12 pm to
If you were them, would you trust us?

Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27961 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 10:28 pm to
frick Russia, Ukraine, Israel & Palestine - not necessarily in that order. We have an invasion on our southern border that could be slowed to a trickle with a wall, security, and intelligence. We have added literally the population of 3 states worth of illegals that will claim they hate us.

Why should I want to send another nickel overseas when the ones that deserve war live right here in the US.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 12:03 am to
The wealth of the United States has been hijacked, by foreign peoples, to fund their wars.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:34 am to
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The wealth of the United States has been hijacked, by foreign peoples, to fund their wars.

hijacked to Larry Fink as ONE OF the MANY Sam Bankman-Fried's collapsed from sheer stupidity

Personally I await the Larry Fink of Blackrock misstep
This post was edited on 10/22/23 at 10:42 am
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67413 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:42 am to
Putin’s comments on communism are meaningless. He has always been an advocate of Russian dominance and aggression. His KGB duty served that end.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Member since Jan 2011
25740 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 11:08 am to
The US is allied with Russia. The anti Russia position didn’t start until the Democrats believed Russia helped Trump win 2016. The anti Russian narrative only comes from Democrats and Media.

A Republican government will mend the relationship with Russia that the Democrats Party is so determined to destroy.
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