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re: When does Texas turn blue?

Posted on 6/14/20 at 3:34 pm to
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 3:34 pm to
Texas could turn blue only when the democrats end their war on oil and the 2nd amendment. Until then Texas stays red.
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 3:38 pm to
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The GOP leadership are not a collection of idiots.

If that were the case, they would've fought harder against mass immigration instead of siding with the corporate sector to crush unions and wages. A fiscally moderate, socially conservative party would've been unbeatable, this is what Nixon wanted; probably why HW set him up with Watergate
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 3:39 pm to
Governor Abbott's removal of straight ticket voting from elections in Texas will keep this from happening. A lot of the problems in Texas right now are caused by straight ticket Democrat voters.

If he takes the Ohio approach (removing party affiliations from the ballot altogether), it's over.
Posted by teebro
laf
Member since Jul 2009
681 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 3:42 pm to
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I think in 1976 Texas delivered the POTUS to Jimmy Carter


Texas and the entire south were 'blue' at that time. Reagan's election broke the Democrats choke hold on the south and led the 'red' wave.
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 3:46 pm to
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Texas and the entire south were 'blue' at that time. Reagan's election broke the Democrats choke hold on the south and led the 'red' wave.



Correct. The term they used was "the Solid South".
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Building the Solid South
With the end of Reconstruction, white Southerners were free to take back state governments, largely by intimidating blacks from going to the polls, ensuring that Democrats would win state legislatures and governorships. Southern Republicans, largely supported by black voters, were voted out of office. A desire to maintain a white supremacist culture, plus anger over the Republican-led prosecution of the Civil War, solidified Democratic loyalties among southern whites. The key to maintaining this new 'Solid South' was keeping African Americans from voting, as black Americans were strong supporters of the Republican Party at the time. Southern governments passed a number of laws that made it almost impossible for blacks to vote. This included poll taxes, which many blacks could not afford to pay, as well as literacy tests. States also used grandfather clauses, which stated that voters could not vote if their grandfather also did not have the right to vote, which prevented many African Americans from voting since their grandfathers had been slaves and had no voting rights. These were known as the Jim Crow laws.
Posted by claremontrich
Member since Nov 2016
2001 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 3:56 pm to
2032 POTUS election....It is over then.....
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12267 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 4:00 pm to
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Suburban women are the biggest threat to the republic in 2020. Largest voting block, all feels, no accountability for results.


Take a look at how the national debt reacts to the 19th amendment. I am not saying, just saying...
Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 4:09 pm to
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Seems like a rather odd response to someone posting facts


No you posted MSM fed BS. I'm the only one in our conversation posting facts.
Posted by tigerfan84
Member since Dec 2003
25299 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 4:14 pm to
The country needs to be separated anyway.
Like today.
Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 4:15 pm to
[quote]If he takes the Ohio approach (removing party affiliations from the ballot altogether), it's over[/quote

Democrats would never win another election if party affilation were removed from ballots nationwide.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 4:16 pm to
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Back then Texas was probably like 5% Hispanic


I'm Hispanic, most of the ones I know in the south are pretty conservative or at least in the middle. Other places, like out west, and I'm talking California, Washington, Arizona, they can be pretty liberal. Texas has a pretty strong conservative stance in the hispanic population. What's odd is, most of us are registered D but majority of the ones I know vote R, and they are usually pretty open about it.
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 4:28 pm to
Cool, but numbers show that definitely isn't the case for most Hispanics. Texas will be the California of the South when whites become the minority. On average I'd say "Hispanics" are more conservatives than "whites" on social issues; but they've been taught to hate whites and the GOP will always be seen as the implicitly white party, so I can't see a large-scale defection
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 4:34 pm to
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Texas will be the California of the South when whites become the minority


Well I guess we'll just see. If it happens it happens, but I don't see it happening in the next 20-25 years. Again if it does whatever.

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but they've been taught to hate whites


This simply isn't true. I've got a list a mile long of hispanic friends and relatives from all walks of life. I'm not saying 0% are brought up that way, but I can assure you it's much less than you think.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 4:39 pm to
Texas will vote for AOC in 2028.

Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50666 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 4:43 pm to
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Suburban women are the biggest threat to the republic in 2020
They crave the BBC and aren't rational creatures anyway.
Posted by FlyingTiger1955
Member since Jan 2019
5765 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 4:47 pm to
Pretty soon. A friend in the Collin County Republican Party told me Collin County was rapidly turning purple. The Party is worried that Collin County could go blue in 2020. A lot of Californians and others from Blue States moves in with Toyota. Also, a lot of Asians and Hispanics have moved in. I would not be surprised to see Texas barely red or slightly blue in 2020. The state has changed dramatically from 2016.
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 4:54 pm to
I think Texas is already north of 40% Hispanic now, but they have very, very low turnout rates; which is probably why the state isn't viewed as purple yet. Young people are also less likely to vote, and Hispanics + other immigrant groups make up the majority of that segment; hence I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a sea-change within the next decade. Otoh this might be delayed if conservatives can uphold strict voter ID laws.

Repubs could probably attract more Hispanic voters like they did Asians in the past, I think that would take decades through.
This post was edited on 6/14/20 at 4:56 pm
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 4:55 pm to
You have very little in common with Mexicans who have crossed the Rio Grande and live 10-15 packed into an apartment, and their American-born children... wouldn’t you say?
Posted by Pipedream
Member since Nov 2019
1231 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 4:57 pm to
Austin Texas seems to be full of blue pixies.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 4:59 pm to
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You have very little in common with Mexicans who have crossed the Rio Grande and live 10-15 packed into an apartment, and their American-born children... wouldn’t you say?



Parents are legal, but grew up and was friends with many who weren't. Spent much time and even lived after HS with Hispanics in that same environment.
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