re: What does a secession actually look like?

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What does a secession actually look like?

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I don’t think it works with out a civil war first . The easiest way would be for California , NY and the blue states around them to break off from the US. But we would still be stuck with a lot of liberals. We would have to make new voter laws to keep the country red and allow liberals to leave but not to enter with out giving up voting rights .I don’t think it would happen but I think it would be best for republicans to split the country and make all of the people who voted for democrat presidents recently to move to the New Democrat country . They should suffer with the rest of their kind . This country is screwed unless we have a civil war or breakup . We are going to become a socialist country.

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Of course looking at our current crop of political leaders, the chance of this happening are virtually nonexistent.

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And that's the rub. While an amicable divorce is the best possible outcome, that requires benevolent leadership. When you have people like Schumer, Blumenthal, Harris, and Hirono as senators, that benevolence is impossible. They actively hate the people with whom they disagree. When they regain power, they will transform into the people that they think Trump actually is.

These fricks love to project.

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Bloody, very bloody.

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I'd be happy to escort the blues to their new country peacefully.

A state peacefully exiting the US =/= a mess. Texas isn’t looking to secede en masse; rather, the discussion is: The state goes alone.

That’s certainly not to say Texas doesn’t support others looking to do the same, just that TEXIT isn’t a joint venture.

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From the Texas Nationalist Movement: LINK ]What is TEXIT?

There is no existing statutory framework in Texas law specifically for conducting an independence referendum. There doesn’t have to be. All the pieces are currently there. They just have to be assembled in the one place where it matters: The Texas Legislature.

This comes in the form of a standard bill. It’s important to note that the Texas Legislature is a true part-time legislative body. They meet for exactly 140 days every other year unless called into a special session by the governor.


1. The Texas Independence Referendum Act is a piece of proposed legislation that will give Texans the ability to vote on becoming an independent, self-governing, nation-state. The most comprehensive piece of self-determination legislation ever introduced in any state of the United States, it is modeled after the UK Referendum Act and the Scottish Referendum Act.

Legislation to initiate a TEXIT referendum is incredibly simple and ready to file. LINK ]Click for text of the legislation.


2. Since the threshold to win a TEXIT vote is a simple majority, it will take 50 percent plus 1 of those who cast a vote in the referendum.


3. Will the federal government use military force to stop TEXIT? Imagine the scenario. Fifteen million Texans have gone to the polls and voted in a free, fair, and open referendum, conducted under the laws of the State of Texas, and have chosen, by a majority vote, to leave the Union and assert Texas’ status as a free and independent self-governing nation-state .... read more: LINK ]Texas Nationalist Movement


4. What will happen immediately after a TEXIT vote? Contrary to the doomsday predictions of those who oppose TEXIT, in the immediate aftermath of an affirmative Texas independence vote, things continue as they have until they don’t. The mail gets delivered. The trash gets picked up. Goods flow. Money is earned and spent. Literally, nothing changes until it does.

There should be one single aim for relations with the United States in the immediate aftermath of TEXIT: minimizing disruption. While those opposed to TEXIT would love to think that disruption cannot be avoided or even mitigated as Texas leaves the Union, they are dead wrong. In fact, the tools necessary to effect a speedy, efficient, and minimally disruptive TEXIT are already at our disposal.

Texas has 25 military bases and the only nuclear assembly plant in the United States in its borders. It’s also the only state with its own Air Force, to say nothing of the National Guard. I believe 15% of currently enlisted US soldiers come from Texas.

Texas may not initially stand much of a chance in a conventional war vs the US, but that's not how secession would transpire anyway. It would be peaceful. Many countries with militaries far smaller than Texas’s exist fine, without incident.

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2. Since the threshold to win a TEXIT vote is a simple majority, it will take 50 percent plus 1 of those who cast a vote in the referendum.

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Here's the catch that I have never seen anyone take into consideration:
The IRS and Social Security could make exiting feasible.
The vote to leave is a secret ballot.
That doesn't mean you have to give up your US citizenship, even if you voted to exit.
Granted the State may require sole citizenship for public office or public service positions, but everyone else becomes at expat.
Retired? S.S. check still comes in the mail.
US taxes? Irs has rules for it, but you start paying well into upper five figures.
Population on US federal programs? No programs. Work, starve or move.
To keep the aforementioned exodus in check, an exited state my get a mountain of foreign aid. Look at how many billions we dump into S-hole countries on the other side of the Earth.
As long as your State has a decent GDP based on demand for goods people need, it would be a challenge but doable.
Just have to make a plan and be first, before everyone else catches on.