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We need to have a talk about the federal bureaucracy (via Net Neutrality)

Posted on 11/22/17 at 6:13 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 6:13 am
a major argument of actual economic conservatives and those on the right worried about government overreach (which includes libertarians) is the authoritarian status of our "4th branch of government" the bureaucracy. this is the child of lazy legislators, the power-hungry executive branch, and the entire industry of 'DC insiders" (aka, the "Swamp")

i saw a poster-friend on FB telling his liberal friends to take their complaints about the FCC ruling on NN to their Congressman and i chuckled. while it's theoretically possible to have Congress enact change, that's very unlikely. this is solely a regulatory decision straight from the area of government that big government liberals LOVE: un=elected, unaccountable, bureaucrats

this entire fight began when the Obama admin could not get Congress to pass a law to offer the alleged protections necessary. so, they go to the bureaucracy. all that happened was that the FCC in 2015 declared that the internet was a public utility under Title 2 of the Telecommunications Act. it's very likely that this designation was not ever thought possible by the Congress who passed this law, considering it was passed in 1996 (it was passed to replace the 1934 version that was written primarily to regulate telephones in an era of different interstate commerce powers of Congress)

the bureaucracy is the ultimate "loophole" or "government cheat code" one earth. the internet was clearly never intended to be a utility when the law was passed. however, due to a lazy Congress who deferred its power to the executive and a lazy/weak executive 20 years later who wanted change, we allow a system where the law is fundamentally changed by the will of people who have no skin in the game. also, they are under almost no real control to keep these rules consistent. The FCC giveth and the FCC taketh away.

so while the merits and criticisms of NN can be debated forever (especially before we see what market participants actually do in response to the new regulations), this is an ample talking point to discuss the absolutely terrible system of government that we have that cedes far too much power (of our almost totalitarian federal government) to an un-elected, unaccountable, and faceless group of people whose interests are expanding government in order to not only keep their jobs, but to get more budgetary power within their department so they can act big and bad. these people, along with lobbyists who manipulate the systems the bureaucrats work within and the industries they work for eventually, are why NOVA some of the most wealthy areas in the entire US.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:12 am to
No response? Nothing?
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:14 am to
we need NN but yes power in the hands of unelected bureaucrats is the bigger, longer-lasting issue
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:17 am to
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we need NN but yes power in the hands of unelected bureaucrats is the bigger, longer-lasting issue


These rules were a power grab, nothing more. Nothing was fixed when they were implemented.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
142072 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:36 am to
These Detroit Residents Are Building Their Own Internet
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We’ve heard of a lot of systems created to keep the underrepresented population uninformed, but these Detroit residents aren’t going for it. Equitable Internet Initiative is a group of Detroit residents who are learning how to build autonomous, affordable, and high-speed WiFi networks to prevent what they are calling, “the creation of a digital class system,”

“We risk our human rights if we don’t take ownership and control over the internet in a way that is decentralized,” said Diana Nucera, director of the Detroit Community Technology Project. Nucera, also known as Mother Cyborg, believes her mission is to empower individuals and help them come to the realization of the potential of technology and she is doing that through the Equitable Internet Initiative.
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“Detroit is one of the top five least connected cities in the United States,” says Nucera. “So what happens when you have a city that has 1,000 mbps and the people with the least [amount] of resources only have 10? I think that causes a huge problem as far as what you can do with access.”

Telecom companies won’t offer good service within these impoverished areas because they don’t see the value. In fact, they go as far as not even turning on their fibers to create the connections, so the Equitable Internet Initiative has purchased gigabyte fiber that they’ve connected to routers and pointed them to their community centers, allowing WiFi access, according to the Vice documentary.

“We need to build our own infrastructure and rethink internet service providing and access in order to reach those people who have been traditionally left out and marginalized,” said Nucera. “The work that we’ve been doing is not just about access, it’s about building a healthy digital ecosystem.”
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:44 am to
I can’t wait until the big telecoms go get a government agency to shite that down, just like Colorado.
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7179 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:52 am to
I feel bad for being in this position but NN is an issue that just baffles me. I've read about it here, the Atlantic, and WSJ and while I can follow the arguments, I just can't get comfortable enough with what is going on to form an opinion. Yes, I am old-ish and yes, I am something of a Luddite.

Your broader point on the ceding of power to the bureaucracy is something I have long felt was a negative development in our republic and few seem to realize just how pervasive it's been. Although I opposed President's "pen and phone" approach as antithetical to the separation of powers, it did raise some awareness of the fourth branch. My hope is that the Supreme Court re-examines Chevron deference (I wrote a note criticizing that decision in the early 90s).
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