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re: VICE Documentary : The Islamic State updated with part 4 & 5

Posted on 8/9/14 at 12:26 pm to
Posted by MSCoastTigerGirl
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 12:26 pm to
They have children waving guns around.

They flat out said "we don't want a happy life"

The 9 year old saying that he wants to fight Russians and Americans blew my mind. They are taught to hate from birth.

And Grrrl, I don't think any of them are fully human. It's very disturbing.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 12:30 pm to
Yeah. I reluctantly agree that we are going to have to address this now. Waiting 10 years will cost many more lives.

But screw the guy calling us cowards and telling us not to send drones. Can't compete with drones? Evolve, MFers.

I don't rejoice in the thought of war, though.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 12:31 pm to
I don't rejoice in the thought of war, though.


No one does.

To add... these thugs are not at war, they are just flat out murdering folks.
This post was edited on 8/9/14 at 12:33 pm
Posted by BobBarker
Bompton
Member since Nov 2012
11661 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 12:34 pm to
Just fricking carpet bomb them all. These dudes aren't hiding in the mountains like Al-Qaeda, they're fighting a straight up war. They're playing our game. We'd frick that arse up with superior firepower, training, and numbers. Need to let the Kurds reestablish Kurdistan too. Placing all these borders and forcing ethnic groups who hate each other to live together is what started all this.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
33617 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 12:34 pm to
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No one does.


I'm not so sure about that anymore. There are some bloodthirsty posts out there.
Posted by BobRoss
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 12:37 pm to
And another thing. This is a serious fricking blunder for ISIS. They should have never pushed too hard against Erbil, because the US has too many interests and people in Erbil.

If they want to keep existing they should piss off the US.
Posted by MSCoastTigerGirl
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 12:38 pm to
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I don't rejoice in the thought of war, though.


I don't either. But the longer we wait, the stronger they get. Someone has to stop them. They are already threatening to come here.

quote:

But screw the guy calling us cowards and telling us not to send drones. Can't compete with drones? Evolve, MFers.


Agreed. I prefer to use drones over having another American soldier die over there. We have to address this now. Seeing the little kids carrying guns and wanting to fight really got to me.

I want to see parts 3-5 of this series.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35676 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 12:38 pm to
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I'm not into watching gruesome videos. So tell me, does the video say how this group was created, trained and funded?



Does it matter?
Yes, it does, Hillary.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
73159 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 12:38 pm to
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They might have too many roots to be expelled from Syria and northern Iraq but it seems far fetched to think these fighters could challenge a state with superior firepower.


They can't. But when they blend into the local civilian population like the Vietnamese did, it's hard to know who to bomb or shoot at. They will have to be rooted out with a large civilian loss of life because they blend in so well.
Posted by BobBarker
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Member since Nov 2012
11661 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 12:49 pm to
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They can't. But when they blend into the local civilian population like the Vietnamese did, it's hard to know who to bomb or shoot at. They will have to be rooted out with a large civilian loss of life because they blend in so well.


Except they're not trying to blend in. They're parading through the streets, dress in military garb, and carry their AK's everywhere. They'd be pretty easy to spot.

The most fricked up thing about the videos is the second when the mobile preacher dude is talking to his son. That kid is like 7 and is brainwashed. He'll be dead before he's 18.
Posted by MSCoastTigerGirl
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
35525 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 12:50 pm to
It's a reporter riding around with the "Press Secretary" of ISIS. These videos are from their point of view. They're not gruesome.

It does talk about the training for kids below 16 years old, and how at 17 they are ready to lead an army.

The group is led by al Baghdadi (if that's how you spell it). He was released by Obama from Camp Bucca in 2009. When he was released, he said "See you in New York". These sick bastards aren't playing around.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125525 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 12:53 pm to
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He was released by Obama from Camp Bucca in 2009.


I thought he was released by Maliki
Posted by MSCoastTigerGirl
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
35525 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

The most fricked up thing about the videos is the second when the mobile preacher dude is talking to his son. That kid is like 7 and is brainwashed. He'll be dead before he's 18.



That is what got to me the most. They don't plan on stopping any time soon. And they're recruiting small children. How can a child be so full of hate? My mind is truly blown right now.
Posted by MSCoastTigerGirl
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
35525 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 12:55 pm to
Idk. I googled his name. Everything says that he was released by Obama in 2009 when Camp Bucca was shut down and all of the prisoners were released. I just did a quick google search, so I may be wrong. If so, apologies.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262892 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 12:57 pm to
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Except they're not trying to blend in. They're parading through the streets, dress in military garb, and carry their AK's everywhere. They'd be pretty easy to spot.


That will change. They'll dress like locals, fire from their buildings when the heat gets turned up. If you're going to fight these people you'll just have to accept there will be some civilian tragedy. It's the way they fight and they understand our sensibilities.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35676 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

It's a reporter riding around with the "Press Secretary" of ISIS. These videos are from their point of view. They're not gruesome.

It does talk about the training for kids below 16 years old, and how at 17 they are ready to lead an army.

The group is led by al Baghdadi (if that's how you spell it). He was released by Obama from Camp Bucca in 2009. When he was released, he said "See you in New York". These sick bastards aren't playing around.
Still doesn't tell me who created/trained and funded them.

If you don't mind, would you shite your pants over them for me?

tia
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35676 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 1:02 pm to
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He was released by Obama from Camp Bucca in 2009.


I thought he was released by Maliki
Details, details. Point is, if you're bored with Al Qaeda - like most Americans are - they have a new boogeyman to shite your pants over.

ETA: Just think of them as the New and Improved version. That slogan seems to sell in a dumbed-down society.
This post was edited on 8/9/14 at 1:03 pm
Posted by MSCoastTigerGirl
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
35525 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 1:03 pm to
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If you don't mind, would you shite your pants over them for me?



What the frick does this even mean?

I gave you a sensible response. I wasn't a bitch or a smartass. You can go frick yourself.


Eta: After looking at your post history, you're a big ole conspiracy theorist. You never make a sensible post. There is no point in conversing with someone like you.
This post was edited on 8/9/14 at 1:06 pm
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 1:03 pm to
As despicable as these frickers are acting they really are not a huge issue for the US. In six months or less ISIS will implode and become a insignificant footnote in history. All the money and support ISIS recieved while fighting in Syria has been cut off by the powers in the region. Sure they can make scary videos but can they project any power? Iraq was easily invaded but it's neighbors will not be, Iran and Saudi have a lot more firepower than Cessenas to throw at them. These shitheads are soon going to find that toyotas are no match for tanks and modern jet fighters. Our biggest mistake is even acknowledging the existance of ISIS which drives their reqruitment and what little money they have flowing in. JMHO
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 1:06 pm to
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How can a child be so full of hate?


A child's mind is very malleable.
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