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re: Vatican police have raided a cardinal's apartment during a drug-fuelled homosexual orgy
Posted on 7/5/17 at 3:45 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 7/5/17 at 3:45 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Homosexuals should be shamed. So should adulterers, thieves, drunkards, fornicators, etc.
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So should many Christians.
Considering many Christians fall into the categories he just named, you would be correct.
He, nor I am covering for Christians who commit sin. Particularly when it is deliberate sin.
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Posted on 7/5/17 at 3:47 pm to DawgsLife
When I was a kid any preacher/priest that was caught doing something like this or even accused of it would be in fear of his life.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 3:49 pm to DawgsLife
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Christians who commit sin.
Some would say all Christians commit sin.
(Yes all...this time.)
Posted on 7/5/17 at 3:51 pm to DawgsLife
quote:Correct. Since I refuse to respond to him, I'll respond to you.
Considering many Christians fall into the categories he just named, you would be correct.
He, nor I am covering for Christians who commit sin. Particularly when it is deliberate sin.
As I said on page two: "Christian's are sinners, too, and the Bible says that those who practice such things (are unrepentant) will be judged by God."
All Christians should be told that such things are sinful and wrong and they should be shamed for practicing them. I need to be shamed for my sin, as well, and hopefully it will continue to lead me to repentance. Once repentant, people should then understand the forgiveness of Christ for those sins and seek to obey out of love and thankfulness.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 3:59 pm to FooManChoo
Convicted is the word for what the Holy Spirit does for a believer that has sinned. If one feels no conviction in their life of sin they need to ask if they are truly saved. Shaming is what men do to men. The Holy Spirit convicts our spirit.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 4:02 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Some would say all Christians commit sin.
(Yes all...this time.)
Did I say otherwise?
See how this game can be played?
Posted on 7/5/17 at 4:04 pm to FooManChoo
'zachery.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 4:11 pm to themunch
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Convicted is the word for what the Holy Spirit does for a believer that has sinned. If one feels no conviction in their life of sin they need to ask if they are truly saved. Shaming is what men do to men. The Holy Spirit convicts our spirit.
I think his point was that we should feel ashamed of our sin. And, the Holy Spirit can use another Christians to convict.
Matthew 18:15 “If your brother or sister[b] sins,[c] go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over.
But we have to be very, VERY careful that we are doing it at the direction of the Holy Spirit and not out of a sense of taking care of a perceived problem on our own.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 4:18 pm to DawgsLife
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Particularly
A for effort.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 4:18 pm to FooManChoo
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Correct.
As always.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 4:23 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Particularly
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A for effort.
Where did I say that all Christians do not sin? I specifically said that Christians sin, did I not.
"Particularly" is in reference to a particular type of sin. Deliberate sin, meaning a sin that is carefully planed out. On that is done deliberately, knowing it is an offense to God. Therefore you point is incorrect.
C+ for effort.
This post was edited on 7/5/17 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 7/5/17 at 4:24 pm to DawgsLife
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Where did I say that all Christians do not sin?
I didn't say you did.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 4:26 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Where did I say that all Christians do not sin?
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I didn't say you did
Then why did you reply to my post? It only makes sense when viewed as a correction of something I said. And nothing I said in the referenced post was incorrect.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 4:26 pm to DawgsLife
Yes we are to come along side one another in love and encouragement and not in the spirit of condemnation.
ps and that is for those around us that are believers and non-believers.
ps and that is for those around us that are believers and non-believers.
This post was edited on 7/5/17 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 7/5/17 at 4:28 pm to DawgsLife
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Then why did you reply to my post?
You stepped into that discussion, not the other way around.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 4:37 pm to MastrShake
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they will though, they'll dismiss it as an anomaly and support the groups who shield the people who do these things
No.
They won't.
The only people I've ever encountered in my life that are OK with sexual deviants are my Progressive friends (the few I have left bc once they realized I no longer walked lock step with them they slowly but surely ditched me).
EVERY Christian and/or Catholic I have ever known was appalled by everything you listed and worked to get people like that out of their diocese. Just about ever person I know or are related to is Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, or some form of Christianity and they ALL detest this behavior and wish the harshest punishment on the offenders.
I thought the same way you did for years. I was wrong. You are too.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 4:45 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:hahaha. if the Christian god is real he can frick off, he's a complete and utter psychopath.
MasterFake knows! He's living in his bubble of denial. He will have his chance for reconciliation, and he will fall to his knees weeping if/when he accepts the Lord as his Savior.
if i ever have to face "god", i hope to be this eloquent
This post was edited on 7/5/17 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 7/5/17 at 4:45 pm to themunch
quote:You are correct, but the Holy Spirit often uses the feeble preaching of men (preachers) who are condemning sin from the pulpits. It's natural to feel shame to go along with conviction.
Convicted is the word for what the Holy Spirit does for a believer that has sinned. If one feels no conviction in their life of sin they need to ask if they are truly saved. Shaming is what men do to men. The Holy Spirit convicts our spirit
Posted on 7/5/17 at 4:49 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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EVERY Christian and/or Catholic I have ever known was appalled by everything you listed and worked to get people like that out of their diocese.
It's genuinely a shame that you haven't known more Catholics.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 4:52 pm to MastrShake
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hahaha. if the Christian god is real he can frick off, hes a psychopath
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You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?” But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, “Why have you made me like this?” Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? -Romans 9:19-21
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