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re: U.S. private employment growth eases but manufacturing shines: ADP

Posted on 5/11/19 at 7:54 pm to
Posted by Possumslayer
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Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 5/11/19 at 7:54 pm to
6 months into The Donald’s presidency I noticed all of our empty business buildings ceased to exist and the nearest big city closest to us (Huntsville Al) is going through a huge boom especially in the small business sector.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 4:54 pm to
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you only need to establish the pattern

you need to confront all the data when you have it if you want to establish a pattern. a cherrypicked point, or even a handful of cherrypicked ones just don't. you gotta deal with it, man
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the revisions are only part of the story as i explained

revisions are literally the only thing that can support your claim
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when a chart shows a clear pattern, it's not imagination

your charts don't support the pattern you claim, and that's not changing
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not the story and i understand why you are trying to make it the story

you "understand" that confronting the actual data would be devastating to your position
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completely irrelevant. you know why, right?


oh, i know why

because they decisively rebut the "pattern" you claim from looking at just the 2011 benchmarking


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the evidence was already there as noted in the data/charts. the assessments years after the fact matter none.




the actual article you pasted word for word here without even summarizing or highlighting any key aspect was literally an assessment years after the fact

oh, but it's the only one that matters now? lol, just lol
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if obama could see the future, which he couldn't. you are using a rhetorical fallacy called post hoc, ergo propter hoc.


lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

so, i'm guessing that although i am offering to fricking gift-wrap it for you, you're not interested in looking at the results of all the benchmarks on that 2009/2010 data, because the single 2011 rebenchmarking tells you all you "need" to know?

and that the monthly revisions aren't important, either?

despite the fact that you cited a cherrypicked handful of that type of datapoints as support for what you laughably call a "trend"?

wow, just wow. that's some truly cowardly shite
This post was edited on 5/12/19 at 5:23 pm
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 3:12 pm to
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you need to confront all the data when you have it if you want to establish a pattern
no you don't and that's a stupid response

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cherrypicked
there we go.

i already responded to this point. obama and crew did not know the future revisions. they went in front of the media, spouted numbers everyone knew was nonsense and never owned up to the downward revisions later. in fact they're STILL trying to take credit for the current economic upswing. i've given you all kinds of evidence. industry observers and people on this board have been telling you the same thing. i'm sorry you can't accept it.

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revisions are literally the only thing that can support your claim
you are wrong. i've already explained this.

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your charts don't support the pattern you claim, and that's not changing
obligatory nuh unh. you are wrong

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you "understand" that confronting the actual data would be devastating to your position
usual distraction from the actual point

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they decisively rebut the "pattern" you claim from looking at just the 2011 benchmarking
because they have nothing to do with the numbers the wh was putting out initially. good grief i'm having to explain this to a toddler

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the actual article you pasted word for word
it was multiple articles by multiple authors

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without even summarizing or highlighting any key aspect
i can't dumb this down any further for you. at some point, it's just you

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was literally an assessment years after the fact
what the frick difference does that make? none whatsoever

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the single 2011 rebenchmarking tells you all you "need" to know
you realize i've already addressed this right? the "rebenchmarking" proves the point. it brings the numbers in line with what everyone was expecting initially that obama was contradicting

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cherrypicked handful
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