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re: Ukraine attacks Soviet ships in Crimea, Putin says no more wheat, nice job

Posted on 10/30/22 at 4:41 pm to
Posted by Snazzmeister
IHTFP
Member since Jan 2015
1150 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 4:41 pm to
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2. The Russian Navy was the only entity preventing grain shipments. What are they providing “safe passage” from?

3. In war, the belligerent nations armed forces attack each other.


It is because belligerent nations attack each other in times of war that the Russians ensuring the safe passage of grain shipments was a big deal. By your own logic, they had every reason to prevent those shipments. A circumstance that would have justified Ukraine’s attack on the Russian fleet.

However, that’s not reality. This was the one area of successful compromise and negotiation of the entire conflict. It enabled food security and has probably saved the lives of tens of thousands of impoverished people. All of that has now ended and for what? Some damaged Russian warships and a PR stunt? frick that.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 4:47 pm to
You Putin lovers are losing your shite over thus debacle of an invasion. Lol.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 4:58 pm to
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The same fleet that is providing safe passage to ensure millions of people dont starve.


That is laughable.

Russia only agreed not to attack the commercial ships hauling the grain. They were not providing guidance. Guidance around mines was being provided by Ukrainian vessels.

Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
3170 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 5:01 pm to
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It is because belligerent nations attack each other in times of war that the Russians ensuring the safe passage of grain shipments was a big deal. By your own logic, they had every reason to prevent those shipments. A circumstance that would have justified Ukraine’s attack on the Russian fleet.

However, that’s not reality. This was the one area of successful compromise and negotiation of the entire conflict. It enabled food security and has probably saved the lives of tens of thousands of impoverished people. All of that has now ended and for what? Some damaged Russian warships and a PR stunt? frick that.


And to add to that the one ship they damaged was a mine sweeper. Sweeping up Ukrainian mines so those grain shipments could safely navigate. Even fricking Turkey was bitching about Ukrainian mines washing up on their shores.
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
3170 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 5:05 pm to
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Ukrainian vessels.


Your a fricking idiot if you think there is any Ukrainian ship in the black sea.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 5:39 pm to
Not in the Black Sea. They guide them out of the 3 Ukrainian ports that were approved in the deal for export. Those ports had been mined. The UN and Turkey established safe corridors that have been demined across the Black Sea. The ships are required to report to Turkey where they are inspected by Ukrainjan, Russian and Turkish/UN officials. They are also inspected before arrival at the ports. The Russian ambassador at the UN made it clear that Russia would not be responsible for establishing the safe corridors. In this case, that Russian mine sweeper wasn't sweeping mines for that grain from Ukraine to be transported safely. It was probably sweeping mines for those Russian ships (9 in total) that transported all of that grain that they stole at the occupied Ukrainian ports.

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This post was edited on 10/30/22 at 5:50 pm
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 5:42 pm to
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Your a fricking idiot


Oh, the irony.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 5:43 pm to
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BayouBlitz

all hail the moron king of the morons

not a clue yet
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 5:44 pm to
Ok Putin lover.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
12623 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 8:04 pm to
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Truth be told, Ukraine wants the rest of the world to feel this war.

They want the rest of the world directly involved in this war.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
42771 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 8:07 pm to
Ukraine - throws rocks at hornet's next

Also Ukraine - Why are these evil hornets attacking me?
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38521 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 10:09 am to
Fear porn - [OFF} ON

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