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re: Ukraine attacks Soviet ships in Crimea, Putin says no more wheat, nice job
Posted on 10/30/22 at 4:41 pm to Indefatigable
Posted on 10/30/22 at 4:41 pm to Indefatigable
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2. The Russian Navy was the only entity preventing grain shipments. What are they providing “safe passage” from?
3. In war, the belligerent nations armed forces attack each other.
It is because belligerent nations attack each other in times of war that the Russians ensuring the safe passage of grain shipments was a big deal. By your own logic, they had every reason to prevent those shipments. A circumstance that would have justified Ukraine’s attack on the Russian fleet.
However, that’s not reality. This was the one area of successful compromise and negotiation of the entire conflict. It enabled food security and has probably saved the lives of tens of thousands of impoverished people. All of that has now ended and for what? Some damaged Russian warships and a PR stunt? frick that.
Posted on 10/30/22 at 4:47 pm to trinidadtiger
You Putin lovers are losing your shite over thus debacle of an invasion. Lol.
Posted on 10/30/22 at 4:58 pm to trinidadtiger
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The same fleet that is providing safe passage to ensure millions of people dont starve.
That is laughable.
Russia only agreed not to attack the commercial ships hauling the grain. They were not providing guidance. Guidance around mines was being provided by Ukrainian vessels.
Posted on 10/30/22 at 5:01 pm to Snazzmeister
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It is because belligerent nations attack each other in times of war that the Russians ensuring the safe passage of grain shipments was a big deal. By your own logic, they had every reason to prevent those shipments. A circumstance that would have justified Ukraine’s attack on the Russian fleet.
However, that’s not reality. This was the one area of successful compromise and negotiation of the entire conflict. It enabled food security and has probably saved the lives of tens of thousands of impoverished people. All of that has now ended and for what? Some damaged Russian warships and a PR stunt? frick that.
And to add to that the one ship they damaged was a mine sweeper. Sweeping up Ukrainian mines so those grain shipments could safely navigate. Even fricking Turkey was bitching about Ukrainian mines washing up on their shores.
Posted on 10/30/22 at 5:05 pm to AU86
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Ukrainian vessels.
Your a fricking idiot if you think there is any Ukrainian ship in the black sea.
Posted on 10/30/22 at 5:39 pm to rooster108bm
Not in the Black Sea. They guide them out of the 3 Ukrainian ports that were approved in the deal for export. Those ports had been mined. The UN and Turkey established safe corridors that have been demined across the Black Sea. The ships are required to report to Turkey where they are inspected by Ukrainjan, Russian and Turkish/UN officials. They are also inspected before arrival at the ports. The Russian ambassador at the UN made it clear that Russia would not be responsible for establishing the safe corridors. In this case, that Russian mine sweeper wasn't sweeping mines for that grain from Ukraine to be transported safely. It was probably sweeping mines for those Russian ships (9 in total) that transported all of that grain that they stole at the occupied Ukrainian ports.
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This post was edited on 10/30/22 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 10/30/22 at 5:42 pm to rooster108bm
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Your a fricking idiot
Oh, the irony.
Posted on 10/30/22 at 5:43 pm to BayouBlitz
quote:all hail the moron king of the morons
BayouBlitz
not a clue yet
Posted on 10/30/22 at 8:04 pm to NC_Tigah
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Truth be told, Ukraine wants the rest of the world to feel this war.
They want the rest of the world directly involved in this war.
Posted on 10/30/22 at 8:07 pm to trinidadtiger
Ukraine - throws rocks at hornet's next
Also Ukraine - Why are these evil hornets attacking me?
Also Ukraine - Why are these evil hornets attacking me?
Posted on 11/2/22 at 10:09 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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