re: Turkey to send ground troops to fight ISIS.

Here is a brief history of Turkish people :

The first historical references to the Turks appear in Chinese records of about 2000 B.C. These records refer to tribes called the Hsiung-nu, an early form of the Western term Hun, who lived in an area bounded by the Altai Mountains, Lake Baikal, and the northern edge of the Gobi Desert and are believed to have been the ancestors of the Turks. Specific references in Chinese sources in the sixth century A.D. identify the tribal kingdom called Tu-Küe located on the Orkhon River south of Lake Baikal. The Khans (chiefs) of this tribe accepted the nominal suzerainty of the Tang dynasty. The earliest known example of writing in a Turkic language was found in that area and can be dated from about A.D. 730.

Other Turkish nomads from the Altai region founded the Göktürk Empire, a confederation of tribes under a dynasty of Khans whose influence extended during the sixth to eighth centuries from the Aral Sea to the Hindu Kush in the land bridge known as Transoxania, i.e., across the Oxus River. The Göktürks are known to have been enlisted by a Byzantine emperor in the seventh century as allies against the Sassanians. In the eighth century some Turkish tribes, among them the Oguz, moved south of the Oxus River, while others migrated west to the northern shore of the Black Sea.

Turks came into Asia Minor in 1071 AD after the victory of Malazgirt War by the Seljuks.


Although nowaday some Turks are mixed with some other ethnicities who were ruled by Ottoman Empire for hundreds of years which include, Bosnian, Circassian, Greek, Laz, Albanian, Armenian, Syrian, Kurd etc , there are a lot of pure blood ones, as well.

We don't consider Turkishness as an ethnicity matter but a national matter. Therefore, whomever considers himself/herself a Turk, then he/she is one.

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nice post. I did read something similar months ago and found it interesting that Turks (who are Caucasian) may have originated in East Asia. But the peoples in that very spot today are Asian looking, so how can taht be explained?

Turkey has no choice but to get involved. They have an enormous refugee problem and this fight will carry into Turkey regardless. I do think the administration has been pressuring Turkey to jump in the fight but I doubt it's why they have jumped in. This is a big opportunity for Turkey on the NATO front and even economically if they can help contain and capture oil fields etc..

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I'm sure we will have another Obama circle jerk over turkey having boots on the ground.

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Dude I don't even know what's real anymore.

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Dude I don't even know what's real anymore

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Honestly Turkey pouring across the border will likely spell the end for Isis. Isis can muster something like 20-thousand lightly armed fighters? They will wilt before any standing army.

Hope it happens, then Let the Kurds have their own county or state and the Shiites too and organize it in a confederation called Republics of IRAQ with three states.

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Any credibility he had in this thread was gone when he called Turks, Arabs.

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He's just pissy cause he's really, really easy to troll.

There. I just said I troll him.

Wanna bet he bites again in this thread?

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Go frick yourself dude. Who the frick do you think you are, Henry Kissenger?

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God forbid he know what he's talking about.

Would you just blow it off if we started talking about all the fricking Jews in Laos?

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They also are not Arabs btw. They are Persians.

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They're not Persians, either. They're Kurds - thus the word.

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They're not Persians, either. They're Kurds - thus the word.

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Hasn't there been enough general interbreeding between the two groups to leave them largely indistinguishable from the other genetically?

Clearly the cultures are still different.