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re: Trump supporters are the majority

Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:05 am to
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:05 am to
Your chart is way off on Biden's years.

Quick google shows spending was 6.8, 6.1, 6.1 in 21, 22, and 23 respectively.

I wonder why you did that?

This post was edited on 3/18/24 at 10:06 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:08 am to

The inverse is more disturbing.



Our economy is built on debt. We need a leader who understands how to fix it.
This post was edited on 3/18/24 at 10:09 am
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:09 am to
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ou wouldn't know conservatism if it served you a subpoena. You're a Populist.
Please do tell us of YOUR conservative values, oh great one!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297981 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:11 am to
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Please do tell us of YOUR conservative values, oh great one!


The biggest is free(er) markets

MAGA wants economic control.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14680 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:12 am to
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You see that spike in 2020? It was a massive gift to the "deep state."



I'm sure you, or Ron DeSantis would have been able to split that baby much more adeptly. Not a chance that you would have been villainized and demonized by the democrat propaganda media for every single Covid death, had you decided to ignore the advice of who was at the time the world's leading expert on infectious disease. No, you would have told Fauci to frick off, and the media would have talked about how brave and brilliant you were. Not a chance there would have been a ticker on every nightly broadcast with the number of people murdered by RogerTheShrubber via Covid, because he ignored all the experts. Nope.
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:12 am to
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The biggest is free(er) markets
Not sure you are the one I was talking to. How do we have "free market" trading with countries that allow slavery in their factories?
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:17 am to
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We need a leader who understands how to fix it.
We probably need a LOT of things. We currently have a choice between biden and Trump.
Notice you left off 2023, which had a deficit of 1.7 Trillion. Prior to covid, Trump had .7, .8 and 1 Trillion in deficit. Since covid, biden has had 1.4 and 1.7 Trillion in 2 years. Trump had 2.5 Trillion in 3 years and biden has had 3.1 in 2 years. One of these is better in terms of deficit and it AIN'T biden.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297981 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:18 am to
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One of these is better in terms of deficit and it AIN'T biden


Yet, y;all are blasting the Biden Economy, and not Trumps.

Wonder why? Its the same.
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:21 am to
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Its the same.
Really? 3.1 Trillion over 2 years is the same as 2.5 over 3 years? Interesting. My math shows biden adding 1.55 Trillion per year and Trump added .83 Trillion. Trump seems to have added just a little bit over HALF of what biden is adding. If the goal is less deficit and the 2 choices are Trump or biden. The choice is easy, TRUMP.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
25605 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:26 am to
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Trump has remade the Republican party, this should be no problem. Right?


You ever thought that maybe there was a reason? When Trump, a New York Democrat, governs more conservatively than a lot of so called republicans maybe that should spell it out for you? Maybe Trump is the wrong person to push it, but the Republican Party needed changing.
Posted by stampman
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
5154 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:28 am to
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For this election season, I motion to let their daily mean tweets threads fall of the first page with limited replies



As far as the "never Trumpers" and those with TDS, I don't even read their posts any longer. They get an automatic down vote (we all know who they are), and the fact that they have just wasted their time is a bonus IMO. How any adult can think like they do is one of the things that has driven this country into where it is today. Oh yea, and OMB!!!
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62195 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:32 am to
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The inverse is more disturbing.



Again, your chart is off for the Biden years. Why do you keep posting charts that minimize Bidens's spending and corresponding deficit?

More importantly, do you understand a deficit like 2020 that was one time spending, vs. a deficit that's a result of spending that's baked into the "budget".

We are looking at perpetual 2 - 2.5 T deficits moving forward.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297981 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:33 am to
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Maybe Trump is the wrong person to push it, but the Republican Party needed changing.


This is the problem.

Actual conservatives which can offer a different economic ideal than Democrats cant survive the primaries.

Moving further left isnt how to fix it. It entrenches it further, and leaves those further right scrambling for a home.

We cant fix it by moving further left.
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:36 am to
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Actual conservatives which can offer a different economic ideal than Democrats cant survive the primaries.
We both know you are whining about desantis. How come he could win the election in Florida, but then couldn't survive the primary? Could it be, he just wasn't good enough?

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We cant fix it by moving further left.
And we certainly can't fix it by helping biden get elected. We're going to the dance with Trump. Time to accept it.
This post was edited on 3/18/24 at 10:48 am
Posted by stampman
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
5154 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:38 am to
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@fun bunch @bucky cheese @rogertheshrubber @roadGator @adam banks


Can you imagine going through life with TDS the only thought that you are capable of?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94110 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:38 am to
Maddow blog

What a conseravtive you are
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14680 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:39 am to
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Moving further left isnt how to fix it. It entrenches it further, and leaves those further right scrambling for a home.

We cant fix it by moving further left.


And yet, that has been the proscribed solution by those who vehemently oppose Trump for generations. it's almost as if you don't remember Dole, McCain, Romney, Jeb!, Christie, Nimrata Haley, Paul Ryan, George Bush, Bush the second, the Cheney crime family, and a thousand others.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297981 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:41 am to
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And yet, that has been the proscribed solution by those who vehemently oppose Trump for generations


And oddly enough, he keeps doing just that.


Hes the Trojan Horse. Maybe unwittingly, but he is the impetus of change in the Republican party to remake it in a more Democratic image.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14680 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:44 am to
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And oddly enough, he keeps doing just that.


Hes the Trojan Horse. Maybe unwittingly, but he is the impetus of change in the Republican party to remake it in a more Democratic image.


Then why would the people in power, people like the ones I mentioned, be willing to commit crimes to keep him out of office? Not to mention the marxist democrats and their crimes to get him out of office.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297981 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:45 am to
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Then why would the people in power, people like the ones I mentioned, be willing to commit crimes to keep him out of office?


Everything they have done has made his support among his faction even stronger.

You dont think they realize it?
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